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So just like in 2016 with Bernie or bust, these asshat are giving away their vote for Trump basically.
I understand their complaint, but c'mon.
No, the DNC gave it away to Trump. Whe the voters make it clear it's Bernie or bust, then it's fucking Bernie or bust. Don't blame the voters, blame the politicians for not listening to the voters.
If it was bernie or bust wouldn't bernie have won?
Of course not, because the Democratic political machine wouldn’t allow it.
I know that happened, but again, if it was truly bernie or bust, and "the people" mostly wanted him they could have written him in. nobody says you can't vote for whoever you want.
No write in has ever come close to winning. Don't be silly.
It's just funny how there are 3 ways you can vote on Trump. 1. Not voting. 2. Voting third party/optional. 3. Actually voting for him. But there is only one way you can not vote on him, and that's voting Harris. The Democrats have really set this up to make it a boom or bust strategy, and the Republicans reap all the benefits.
I'm not familiar with the history, how did Democrats set a system which then lets Republicans reap the benefits? Sounds counterproductive.
The problem is that the conservatives are united under one party and one leader.
Meanwhile, the more liberal people are split between several candidates/parties.
Conservatives need to be broken up. Maybe this election, if Harris wins, the Republicans might actually do that to cut themselves off from the trumpets for better chances in the future.
So you have no red line.
In 2028 when Harris is exterminating everyone in the immigration detention camps you'll vote for her because Republicans are worse.
Yeah like that would ever happen... 🙄
Edit: under Kamala Harris I mean.
It doesn't take a lot to go from concentration camps to extermination camps, historically speaking, and the US does have concentration camps for migrants and refugees.
Built during the Obama/Biden administration.
I'd like to know how much of this is a state level decision and how much is federal level. Then I could make a better opinion on the matter.
I mean they're run federally, ICE is a federal agency
So if Texas started exterminating everyone in immigration detention camps you'd absolve Harris of all responsibility.
You're literally making up interpretations.
No I wouldn't absolve her.
Besides this is all based on what? Shit that she hasn't done or that hasn't happened yet?
Why are we even debating imaginary scenarios???
The point is you either vote for Kamala Harris, the least worst of the two major candidates, or if you're voting for third party or cancelling your vote your just giving it away to Trump. Either that or you're voting Trump.
Kamala sure isn't a fucking angel, but she's a way better option than Trump as a potential president. And those other topics like the migrant camps and the genocide by Israel, are all shit you can protest and ask for change once she's in office. With enough pressure, at least she has the chance to change the policies. With Trump that won't even be an opinion. And judging from your username, you're the one that might end up in a concentration camp under Trump. So think about that.
As part of the Biden administration she's already party to genocide and a crackdown against asylum seekers and tried to help pass a fascist border bill. The fascist agenda against migrants is on the march and she's just fine with it.
What I'm telling you, is if you don't vote for Harris, you're basically voting for Trump.
How do you think these things are going to turn out under Trump? You think they'll improve? Under Harris there's a chance they might with enough pressure from the people. Not under Trump.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this until it gets through your thick skull.
It's literally happening right now under a democratic president.
So there lining them up and executing them? That's not what's happening right now at all.
So your political disagreement starts and ends with your preference on how to systematically murder people
Very cool how the 'left' party is not entirely made up of and supported by literal nazis
How the fuck did you even get to that conclusion?
My god man. What's wrong with you?
Seriously, what dots did you connect in your head from the few sentences I wrote???
Don't argue with the trolls, just downvote. They're either too far down the rabbit hole or state sponsored trolls.
I have zero patience for fucking nazi shit. I have zero patience for people playing fucking stupid to the idea of context. I have zero patience for maudlin outrage mugging.
If you think you're innocent of one knock it the fuck off with the others.
Nazi shit??????
Bro. Go outside and touch some grass.
You're not well.
*Genocide denying???
Brother you don't know who you're talking to.
Speaking of Nazi, congratulations on getting an actual Nazi genocide supporter elected by not voting for Kamala Harris.
LoL I'm not even American. I can't vote in the US.
Take your attitude and go back to Reddit where you belong.
okay so you're a nazi that lives somewhere else that still said all the shit you said
lol I'm so owned
take your politics and go back to reddit where you belong
If jumping to conclusions were an Olympic sport, you'd get the gold medal and break the world record.
Go outside and take a deep breath, friend. We're actually on the same team.
Read your comment and ask yourself who's loathsome and insufferable and being a prick.
You've done nothing but jump to conclusions and insult me gratuitously.
I hope your attitude improves over time because this is really not constructive to rational and intelligent discussions.
Good bye.
Awww does someone need to go outside and breathe some fresh air?? :<
I took a peek at your comment history and holy moly...
You're one angry person. Calling everyone Nazis and writing in all caps. All you do is insult people.
We're trying to do better on Lemmy.
Instead, why don't you try asking questions like why people think a certain way, ask to clarify their point of view and provide intelligent counter arguments.
Do better.
I only call people nazis if they materially support genocide.
Burn in hell you piece of shit fucking nazi.
Imagine not being angry at a genocide. Only a fucking nazi.
The best thing about this election is that liberals finally dropped the pretense of having any morals or principles.
Had they kept quiet instead of trying to justify genocide they might have better chances in future elections, but I think they have lost some voters forever. Whether that will matter or not is yet to be seen, they are betting on winning more former-Republican and former-Trump voters so being pro-genocide might work for them.
It would have been so easy! When Harris skipped Netanyahu's address to Congress I thought they were going to do it, even.
They couldn't even pretend for a week.
Exactly, the dems are to the right of Reagan already.