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ROUND 20: 🇲🇽 Mexico


FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MÉXICO 2024


Circuit stats


  • Circuit name: Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez
  • First Grand Prix: 1963
  • Number of laps: 71
  • Circuit Length: 4.304 km
  • Race Distance: 305.354 km
  • Lap record: 1:17.774 Valtteri Bottas (2021)
  • 2023 winner: Max Verstappen

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

A penalty was justified but 20 seconds was insanely excessive, and completely out of contrast to similar incidents and penalties in previous races, completely took the most interesting battle out of the race.

Rest of the race was pretty boring. Very few overtakes that actually mattered. The one battle that could've been interesting ended up not happening due to Leclerc almost going into the wall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The minimum penalty for that type of incident is 10 seconds. The T8 incident is unquestionably a penalty. The T4 incident was separate and if the FIA also penalizes that, it has to be 20 seconds total.

The FIA says the outcome of the incident doesn't influence the penalty, so by similar logic you'd think subsequent incidents would also not affect the penalty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Agree with you, in my opinion Verstappen deserved that 20 seconds penalty (10+10). Anyway the regulation should be reviewed, the rule of the apex a bit absurd nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We had three 5 seconds penalties for pushing a driver off track last week. In all cases, the driver pushed off track lost position. Yesterday Lando cut the chicane after being forced wide and ended up ahead of Verstappen resulting in a gain of position. Considering all this, how is 10 seconds justified here for the T4 incident¿? T8 was a much more egregious move by max and was proportionally punished.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Max was clearly behind when he ran Lando off the track. I'm betting the telemetry showed it was intentional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He got a serious warning last week, but he did not learn from it. This will cost him badly, next year Norris will drive nr 1. Maybe that will be a lesson for him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Norris will drive nr 1

What does this mean¿? Number 1¿?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sounds like an oddly worded championship prediction.

Edit: Just to be clear I wasn't trying to be rude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This was actually good and worthwhile from Max's perspective. He got to hold Norris up the whole first stint, which ultimately most likely cost him the win. Norris P1 and Max P4 would have been a much worse outcome for him points-wise, so I'm not sure Max is going to learn a whole lot from this race other than "I'll do it again".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No driver intentionally picks up 20 seconds in delays. He'll have to be more cautious if he wants to win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Right now it's more about stopping Norris by any means for him. He'll probably take less risk if he feels he has more competitive pace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He drives like that against everybody, not just Norris.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I remember he was crazy like that during his first race in Brazil and thought he would calm down with the years. Nope, still crazy.