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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’m curious about your definition of shareholder; what if I owe £80 worth of fractional shares in an app-based investment service? Does that make me a shareholder?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then your income wouldn't be affected in any real way by raising taxes on those shares and getting cross that Starmer taxing unearned income is affecting you badly is bothincorrect and missing the point.

Starmer is raising tax on unearned income instead of working people's taxes, which is very fair for a change, and you're splitting hairs over definitions of who counts as workers. You're so missing the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I agree with everything you’ve said.

I think if Starmer said “we aren’t going to raise tax on personal income, but on capital gains” he wouldn’t have to tie himself in knots trying to define “working people”.

I’m not trying to split hairs; it’s Starmer (who I, for clarity, support) that’s refused to be clearer about what he intends to do and ends up having everyone debate what “working people” means.

The challenge is that they clearly what some kind of threshold where personal income is also additionally taxed, and that’s when “working people” becomes a weird “I’ll know it when I see it” debate.

FWIW, I’m in the highest tax band and I support raising the highest tax band AND raising capital gains tax. It’s not Labour’s intent I disagree with, it’s their crappy own-goal communication style.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

It certainly doesn't make you a worker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

It’s not my definition. It is the definition that is being used in context in the article. Read it before commenting

The definition being used is proper and common in modern usage.