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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If they are told they make more money harming you, CEOs literally have a legal responsibility to choose that option.

No they fucking don't.

They choose to do so out of greediness the vast majority of the time, but it isn't a legal obligation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plenty are greedy psychopaths, I'm not saying the above as a forgiveness, I'm stating it as a fact. A CEO is a legal "corporate officer" of a company. Seems you need to learn a bit more about fiduciary responsibilities for a CEO. It is a legal obligation.

Maybe you'll do some reading, probably not though, huh? The people in your life must be just fucking exhausted by that energy of yours.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It is a legal obligation.

Nope. There are these obligations but it is not illegal for a CEO to perform sub optimally, or even make multi year losses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes they actually do. Look up Dodge v. Ford Motor Company. A business must be run in the interests of the shareholders, not the public, not the employees, not even the business itself.

Is it morally right? Fuck no. Is it the law? Unfortunately yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Grobow v. Perot, 539 A.2d 180 (Del. 1988).

Directors in a business should:

  • act in good faith;
  • act in the best interests of the corporation;
  • act on an informed basis;
  • not be wasteful;
  • not involve self-interest (duty of loyalty concept plays a role here).
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Fair point, I was unaware of this case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And let’s not forget that most significant forms of “harm” are illegal in the first place. The comment above you makes it sound like any minute now, Nabisco might decide it’s more profitable for them to roll out to your house and kill you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

If they thought they would profit from a direct murder, they would. It's not like they ever see any significant penalties for murder.

Usually it is an indirect murder, though. Like we are reading about chicken processing plants deciding it is more profitable to maim or kill children rather than pay adults.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I mean.... if something is illegal but the penalties are low or enforcement nonexistent then it's more like a recommendation. Fines become a "cost of doing business".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You are actually not wrong but if they dont obey BoD, it is the shed.

Bigger question here if this "simplification" is a valid tactic to communicate the message.

Theoretically BoD could sue the CEO, but i dont think that ever happened in this context... Only in cases of fraud, ie stealing company assets

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Something similar has happened. Look up Dodge vs. Ford Motor Co where the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that a ceo must operate in the interest of the shareholders not in the interests of the business and it's employees.