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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I take argument with #5 as a concept.

My region is against speed and red light cameras out of freedom and privacy arguments; so people get slaughtered by cars instead.

Fine for selfhosting though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Studies show red light cameras don't decrease accident rates in the intersections they're installed at. Furthermore, some municipalities have started doing things like varying timing of the light cycle to get more people running red lights for the increased revenue. These cameras haven't been shown to decrease accident or injury/fatality rates anywhere they're installed. If you're against people being slaughtered by cars, it seems you should be against red light cameras since they don't do any good and have the potential to make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

How do you figure? Red light cameras decrease frequency and severity of crashed at signalized intersections. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46552

There is some increase in rear ended, but those are much less severe than right angle or pedestrian collisions.

Cities adjusting the dilemma zone, or increasing speed limit; is a problem with revenue usage of red light cameras; and revenues should be going to victim funds. It also seems to be a uniquely USA problem? That could be a taxation and funding source issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue that's fundamentally a problem with car drivers, not with the lack of surveillance, but I get your point. People do have a freedom not to crushed by traffic, and it sort of outweighs others' freedom not to be caught on camera while crushing others with their cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Drivers and road design.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I agree. The argument would be good against always-on cameras though. I dont see an argument against red light cams.