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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I know it's satire but I still don't like how The Onion how the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is any older than a century and change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Before that there ware plenty of other wars in the region.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean to an extent but definitely less than, say, Europe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the Ottoman Empire kept a lid on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean yes. That's 700+ years right there. And before them the other caliphates. Sectarian violence wasn't a common occurence in the Middle East before European colonization, which among other things drew nee borders in a way that intentionally encourages sectarian and ethnic violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The Ottomam Empire and Caliphates were aggressive brutal empires, that even conquered parts of Europe. That’s basic historic knowledge.

Ottoman oppression of Arabs was the whole reason the British Empire could ally with them against the Ottomans. The Ottoman Empire didn’t fail because of outside empires, but the rot inside it.

The wars in the Balkans in the 1990s can be traced back directly to Ottoman conquest.

Look up slavery in the Ottoman Empire and caliphates as well. These were not some humanitarians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought we were talking about sectarian violence in the Middle East.

The wars in the Balkans in the 1990s can be traced back directly to Ottoman conquest.

Huh? How so?

Anyway you're trying to prove that Ottoman empire bad, which is... Well... It's not that simple but I definitely don't like them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You were singing their praises just now.

Sure empires create stability inside themselves. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

You're clearly moving the goalposts so I'll just disengage from this conversation.