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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (41 children)

Unpopular opinion: Cop pay and training is inadequate. If you want professional cops, you need to hire professional people and train them professionally. The only people that apply to become officers are morons and the power hungry. People with integrity don't apply because the money is shit.

Any job that trades money for fraternity is a job that's garbage. And boy oh boy are cop houses frats.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Any human with a job should have a living wage and proper training imo. Cops are no different.

I don't think that training (of which they have a lot, most of it to my knowledge teaches them that they are at war with citizens and always in danger) is the entire answer.

We need to figure out what we want cops to do.

To my knowledge:

  • Cops have no duty to protect citizens
  • Cops can steal our property (in traffic stops)
  • Cops can murder us with minimal justification and expect minimal consequences. Indeed even lawsuits are paid by the city and not the police budget
  • Cops are immune to prosecution in most cases.

So, why do we have them? They seem to be an armed gang that waits for us to commit a traffic infraction and then write us a ticket and possibly kill us or steal our property. They have no duty to protect us from criminals or disasters and if they get scared and kill us, at worse they transfer to a new department.

I think we need law enforcement and police, but the current system is irrecoverably broken imo. They have had decades to reform themselves and haven't done so unless under duress from a court. We need to rethink why we have them and what their job is. Indeed if we want them to have a dangerous job where they protect us from "things" and put themselves in harms way they need to be compensated properly, but I don't think we can fix the current system.

I got off on a tangent, my apologies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Currently the police nationwide live up to the saying 'police exist to protect home prices, not lives'

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