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Ehhhhhh, I dunno. I mean, it'd be weird to argue donald trump isn't popular, despite thr majority of folks having an unfavourable opinion of him.
I also think this is sort of like Obamacare which was famously incredibly popular with folks, including Republican voters, as long as you didn't use the word Obamacare. If you loom at that abacus polling I linked earlier, you'll note that most folks don't even seem to realize the cheques they've received have anything to do with the carbon tax and many don't understand they're getting more than they pay in...
I'm not arguing that people know what it is or are aware of the actual implications.
Okay but it does seem odd to claim it's unpopular when the unpopularity is based on misunderstanding. (Also, would you say trump is unpopular despite his legions of rabid ~~marks~~ fans?)
Let's go back to Obamacare, which when polled absent the name, was wildly popular. But Obamacare with the name was unpopular.
So, would you say Obamacare was popular, unpopular or complicated? And do you see how this applies to the Carbon Tax, which suffers from the same issue?
I don't think it's odd, because people vote based on whatever their understanding or misunderstanding is. Therefore this popularity is what drives upstream decisions on keeping, modifying or repealing this policy. Not what the true, factual reality is.
I don't have the numbers on Obamacare but lets assume for sake of argument that 80% of people wanted it repealed, while only 20% if it was called ACA. If at a given point in time the law was referred to by Obamacare by 80% of the people and they wanted it repealed, then I'd say it's unpopular. Of course I can see how this applies to the CT and I'd refer you to my previous paragraph. People will vote and demand change on the basis of their current beliefs, however well they match reality. If someone managed to manufacture belief one way or another, that's what counts at the ballot box. Today I think the beliefs on CT can't be framed as popular. Worse, I think they shouldn't be framed this way because it could lead to counterproductive results.
I think it's a rose by any other name. As a political name,, I think you are right. As a policy, I think it is broadly popular.
Think of Obamacare. It is basically unchanged and now, fairly popular as more have experienced it instead of conservative misinformation. At the beginning, like the carbon tax, it was broadly popular in all but name.
Now, people will absolutely vote based on their misunderstanding of the situation. (This is a program wherein most Canadian citizens get money from the government but more than half of us don't think we got it and of those who do understand they received it, a sizeable proportion has no idea it has to do with carbon rebates.)
If you took the exact same policy, branded the cheques "Poilievre's Policies Payback to Canadians" or whatever, it would (minus the chicanery) be broadly popular.
So sure, the name of a thing is unpopular but the thing itself is popular. Your call which you think is more important I guess?