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War never changes (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey thanks for the reply, but I don't understand how you can attest to Putins intent. Does he confide in you? Do you read his blog?

There is just no way that this war is one sided. Didn't US/Nato provoke Russia by moving resources into Ukraine, breaking the minck agreements? I don't know if that's true, but thats way more plausible than it's just big bad Putin. He's the villian. Case closed.

I honestly don't KNOW anything for certain. History was written by the victor. Propaganda is everywhere. I just find it annoying when people claim to KNOW something because they watch the news or read history books. Were you there?

Can you one hundred percent positively say Putin is NOT just trying to defend his nation from this US/Nato proxy war? Don't lie to me.

(I don't necessarily think Putin is a good person, I just don't think he's the only bad one.)

I do appreciate you taking the time to set me straight. Not sarcasm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Mate, I don’t have the resources to answer to all that. If after two and a half years of war you still believe the “nato provoked Putin” bullshit I don’t know what to tell you.

I cannot read Putin’s mind but I have read and listened to a plethora of explanations for the current state of affairs, from multiple POVs and to varying degrees of depth. Some of them make more sense, some of them less. The explanations you are bringing up (nato provoked, breach of minsk, defensive war, etc etc) are among those that makes the least sense under a bit of scrutiny.

I don’t want to have this debate under a fucking comic thread so I’ll disengage. I’ll just say that just because people you don’t like (government? newspapers? I don’t know) say something it doesn’t mean it is AUTOMATICALLY false and any other explanation is preferable. I know it’s boring, but maybe, just maybe, they are onto something once in a while.

Don’t trust them if you don’t want to, do your own research - but do it for real, not like the antivaxers. Maybe that propaganda bullshit you find more reasonable will appear for what it is.