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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

“when somebody hits a massive slide tackle and usually sends them flying and it hurts them servely [sic]”.

Couldn't run a spell checker?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Aside from the fact that this is a verbatim quote, British journalism has a rich history of hilarious typos. Spell checker would not have yielded moments like this - https://metro.co.uk/2015/04/06/that-awkward-moment-the-bbc-calls-large-hadron-collider-hardon-collider-5136981/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What do you think [sic] means? Do you expect the average urban dictionary contributor to be able to spell?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[sic]

Sic (band), styled as SIC, a metal band from the Faroe Islands

no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Means they are deliberately quoting a source verbatim that they know contains an error to avoid misrepresenting exactly what the source said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You have made a mistake, learned from it and have backed down. You, sir, are covered in glory on this day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I'm covered in something at least

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think the editors of that publication need to step up and take charge, they're letting a lot of mistakes like this slip through the cracks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The problem is, if you're quoting someone or something, it is considered very unprofessional to make even the slightest changes, even correcting typos in written materials. That's what the [sic] is for, to denote that this is literally how it's written in the source.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

See my explanation in the comment chain below.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

The fact it comes from urban dictionary is immaterial. It could come from a Facebook post, a presidential press conference or a YouTube comment and the rules are the same. Journalistic codes of conduct don't discriminate between sources when it comes to the handling of quotes.

The fact is, when you're quoting something, anything, taking such liberties with the quote, even for seemingly innocuous/well-intentioned reasons, is a professional minefield no journalistic publication is going to want to touch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's what the [sic] is for. It's showing "here's what the person literally said, to make sure we're not misquoting them."

It's standard practice, as "stepping up and taking charge" would mean substituting someone else's words for your own, which is a slippery slope. "Oh he said X, but meant Y, so I'll write that instead" can very easily be abused by people actively looking to misrepresent other's words.

Source: BA Journalism, who had to use [sic] when quoting non-native English speakers (was part of an immigration story). Whenever possible, I'd try to clarify/ correct mid-interview: "oh, you said A, but I think you might've meant B. Is that correct?" That way, you know for a fact it's still their words.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Urbandictionary.com is a mostly unmoderated wikiish popular-definition site. It does not have editors. It is not a publication. I was using the irony of polite language for that vulgar "publication" to be sarcastic on the assumption that most people know about urbandictionary. It also occurs to me belatedly that "that publication" is nonspecific and could reasonably refer to either the publisher of this article or, as was intended, urbandictionary.

Source: misspent youth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_jokes_in_Private_Eye that the guardian used to have a reputation for typos and similar errors