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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (37 children)

I wish Telegram would just enable default E2EE. Oh well, time to switch to Signal!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (30 children)

I also don't trust Signal.. And I won't gonna switch a 4th time. I might as well switch to Matrix chat now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how much we can trust matrix either to be honest. There's some cryptographic flaws in their Olm Library. https://soatok.blog/2024/08/14/security-issues-in-matrixs-olm-library/

As it turns out being both secure and convenient is very difficult

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Olm is now deprecated and all development is now focused into Vodozemac: https://github.com/matrix-org/vodozemac. That being said, is there no proven Olm Protocol alternative implementation for e2e encryption (proven technology) instead of reinventing the wheel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

vodozemac might become that proven implementation. Without reinventing the wheel there will never be an alternative, because everyone just reuses the one existing library.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

ow interesting. TIL.... Olm Protocol is a clone of Signal’s Double Ratchet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

That is a pretty weak argument. The issues are minor and in a library that people are moving off of to a better build and stronger validated library. Yes, it should have been like that in the first place, but the problem is minor and being addressed.

I would look more to the various features of Matrix that aren't encrypted like room names, topics, reactions, ... and not to mention the oodles of unencrypted metadata. I really wouldn't call Matrix a high-privacy system.

I like Matrix and use it regularly, but it definitely doesn't have a privacy-first mindset like Signal does. I'm hoping that this improves over time, but without a strong privacy first leadership it seems unlikely to happen.

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