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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are certainly vegan diets. People who still eat animal produce may still be interested in vegan alternatives without becoming vegan or vegetarian. And I don't think being part of a small community of a certain life choice isn't really making you a minority in the political sense (I assume that's what the minority part is trying to imply here, that there's some sort of entitlement for a minority protection).

Also, promoting vegan diets for carnivorous pets is indeed animal abuse and should not be defended or promoted. That's typically a telltale sign of veganazis, which are generally a terrible thing even for actual vegans as they put the whole lifestyle into a bad light with their overly aggressive rhetoric and disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are certainly vegan diets.

Yes, and there are Muslim diets I'm sure, but Islam isn't a diet either, for example. Just stick "veganism" into your search engine of choice and the credible sources won't call it a diet.

And I don’t think being part of a small community of a certain life choice isn’t really making you a minority in the political sense

I'm arguing that they may not have meant that. The criticism should be "that's clumsy wording because it sounds like you mean minority in a political sense" or "surely you don't mean..." rather than "you're comparing yourself to (minorities in the political sense) and therefore vegans are bad".

Also, ...

Honestly, I suspect your willingness to assume the worst of what a vegan's said, and that you bring up a minority view even amongst vegans out of context, betrays a prejudgment that plays as much, if not more, of a role as how aggressively some vegans argue in how you're approaching the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and there are Muslim diets I'm sure, but Islam isn't a diet either, for example. Just stick "veganism" into your search engine of choice and the credible sources won't call it a diet.

And there's surely people who are looking for traditional Muslim food without wanting to convert to Islam as well. Muslim's would probably treat people curious about their food less hostile than those vegans would.

I suspect your willingness to assume the worst of what a vegan's said

You can suspect that I assume the worst of any sort of human, especially when they constantly argue in bad faith and with hostile rhetoric. That being said, I don't approach vegans at all. I just observe the constant self righteous shit flinging they do from the outside, or get unwillingly caught up in it because they can't help but attack people even outside of their little radicalized bubbles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But then you're willingly admitting that you don't speak to enough vegans to have an informed idea of their ethos, which is something I wouldn't readily admit even if I did it. Not sure what your first point has to do with the matter at hand though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not speaking to veganazis isn't the same as not speaking to vegans. Normal vegans I have no issues talking to.

My first point is about the community that's about vegan food shunning those interested in vegan food because they're unwilling to talk to people who eat animal produce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you're going on a bit of a tangent I'm not interested in, sorry, but otherwise I'm not really following, and if you say things like "veganazis" it just reminds me of when people used to write "feminazis".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

If you cannot differentiate between feminists and feminazis either, then we have indeed nothing to talk about as you've sufficiently outed yourself as an extremist who does not aim for equality.