this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
151 points (92.7% liked)

Fuck Cars

9622 readers
723 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It would not justify it, you just like the excuse because you tend to do similar things. You are not entitled to murder others, especially those who aren't responsible for your situation, in order to satisfy your "needs". Cannibalism doesn't magically become acceptable because you're starving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people, when given a choice between cannibalism and dying of starvation will choose the former. The ones that do may choose to regret it, but they are alive to have the capacity to regret.

At the point that you are struggling to survive, any society that does not immediately render aid is no society at all (not to you), and is either an enemy, taking resources you need, or prey.

I find it unfathomable that people imagine that poor people and untermenschen should just resign themselves to dying off. It explains why the working class might resort to terror attacks to assert their right to exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but they are alive to have the capacity to regret.

Oh, wow, that's so comforting to know: the monster feel a tinge of guilt. So, are you ready to die for someone else's character development (best case)?

I find it unfathomable that people imagine that poor people and untermenschen should just resign themselves to dying off. It explains why the working class might resort to terror attacks to assert their right to exist.

The least one can do is understand the class war. You don't punch down or to the side. You don't do reverse-Robin-hood.

Aside from that, if all that's left of this species is monsters, there's no point to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sound like you've never gone hungry, or even suffered from precarity.

We are all monsters once we are desperate enough. Even you.

But then we, as a species, careen towards multiple great filters we are ill-prepared to navigate. We may be too savage to survive after all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty weird that you're baselessly accusing this person of doing similar things just for asking whether or not she's doing this in the absence of a viable transportation alternative.

Like why are people on this site such dicks? It's way past Reddit levels of snark and it just makes for a shitty experience here. It's like hanging out with a bunch of jaded and snarky IT guys.

I'm no fan of shitty drivers and I think if we live in a world where license suspensions are a thing, that's fine but don't be surprised when stuff like this happens when public transit sucks. It may exist but there's a reason why a lot of folks prefer their car over poorly funded public transit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If your job is indirectly about murdering people, you're just a soldier and this is war. It is the Nuremberg defense, the "I was just following orders" excuse.

I’m no fan of shitty drivers and I think if we live in a world where license suspensions are a thing, that’s fine but don’t be surprised when stuff like this happens when public transit sucks. It may exist but there’s a reason why a lot of folks prefer their car over poorly funded public transit.

Have you thought about why public transit is poorly funded and developed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you thought about why public transit is poorly funded and developed?

Because the automotive industry actively dismantled it in the early twentieth century and then lobbied ever since to redirect funding to highway maintenance? The largest single government project in existence in the US National Highway System.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Indeed. And that automobile industry is supported by a large segregationist population who loves living where the buses full of non-white poors don't reach. That and there's physical competition over road space for buses, as they require bus lanes. Bus lanes aren't car lanes, that's the point of bus lanes, and installing bus lanes is usually unpopular (due to all the car drivers who don't want to lose a lane or street parking).

What I'm trying to point out is that all sides of system matters, especially if there's some kind of democracy going on. Blame is distributed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Did you reply to the right person? I'm not sure how your comment is relevant to mine. I'm well aware of why public transit is poorly funded and developed.