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Personally I don't see a meaningful difference between the AFD/rather open fascists, and "liberal democrats" who would be doing all of the same anti-immigrant, anti-minority, etc. things either way (with less vitriol, but also more cover-ups and willful ignorance/washing their hands of the matter). The main difference is simply that one is more "honest" (if either can be called that- they shouldn't) about their hideous system.
Sorry for placing words in your mouth, or seeming to anyways (that wasn't exactly my intention). My point was simply that I couldn't care less if they were watched by or designated "far right" by the Verfassungsschutz/gestapo (that they actually are far-right is another matter worth caring about however), and that I don't think the German bourgeois, genocidaire, warmongering state's admission/designation adds to the credibility, rather the opposite, even if they said that the sky was blue it'd probably be best to doubt until you can look out and see it for yourself.
As for being watched that said, I agree. It is dangerous to be watched, and it would be better not to be. But what I meant was that many of those who are being watched by the German fascist state- those who are being actively persecuted- I see it more as a sign of their human decency and dignity rather than any demerit. Just because something is a "badge of honor" doesn't mean people should try for it, nor that it is a positive thing otherwise, or that the circumstances which led to its existence should have been present to begin with.
No problem, all good!
I agree with you. It doesn't add any credibility, its the opposite.
I primarily wanted to say that there was a rapid change of direction in the public debate. Starting with someone almost having to justify voting for the AFD or giving it a platform, and now it's completely normal to even think about a coalition.
The bourgeois state is no longer pretending regarding this matter. No attempts to disguise anything, but to say directly: "Yes, it's indeed a far-right party. Yes, that's okay, that's normal." They no longer need to lie to your face. I just think it's connected to the shift to the far right in the public discourse in Germany, normalising it and also the preparation for war. Exactly 85 years ago, Germany attacked Poland, now right-wing extremism is accepted in bourgeois politics and is treated as normal.
Contrary to decades before, you have now to justify yourself if you are against German militarism or against Yankee imperialism per se.
In other words, as if the bourgeois were not trying to disguise and justify its exploitation, but simply saying it right to your face, as if it were the most normal thing in the world. Or think of, when German admits tomorrow, that there is a genocide going on in Palestine and that there are fine with it - Contrary to denying it.
Ah ok, good that you pointed that out. I met in the past organisations once, which were joking around how "cool" this would be. But of course, a serious organisation would take this matter serious.