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Albanese backs down on decision to exclude LGBTI question from next census (www.abc.net.au)

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In short:

Anthony Albanese has backed down on a decision not to add a question on sexuality to the next census.

The federal government intended to omit a new question out of fear it could create "divisive" debate.

What's next?

The next census will be held in 2026.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Equality Australia welcomed the reversal, but said the prime minister's comments left it unclear whether the census would include people who were trans or gender diverse, or people with innate variations of sex characteristics.

"It would be a shame if the government doesn't trust the Australian public enough to accept that the census needs to gather basic data about our nation for it be meaningful and useful," Equality Australia CEO Anna Brown said.

"Including LGBTIQ+ people in the census simply brings Australia into line with countries like the United Kingdom, Canada, Scotland and New Zealand that already count our communities."

Surely data on the number of people who identify as trans is really important? Surveys in other countries have suggested the number of people in Gen Z who identify as trans is much higher than previous generations. This seems like potentially useful data that should be sought in the census.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Surely data on the number of people who identify as trans is really important? Surveys in other countries have suggested the number of people in Gen Z who identify as trans is much higher than previous generations

Huh, why are you using that as a reason to put us under the microscope? Couldn't be an ulterior motive could there be? Just a very curious angle on it. Why that one? pray tell?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why use generational change to substantiate Equality Australia's point that data on the population's gender diversity is also a relevant part of the intended function of a census? Because it's likely the most significant factor in the perceived growth in diversity, afaik (as a cishet). I'd assume older generations have additional barriers to overcome to be openly trans

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I've had interactions with the user that lead me to believe they have less than pure intentions. There's a current moral panic about all the kids turning trans with the usual "if trends continue" specious reasoning^1^.

Usually not answering why being trans is bad apparently.

But the point remains, who cares how many people might be trans in the future? Trans people now are quite clear about our needs and they're being ignored. E.g. in nsw Alex Greenwich's equality bill was proposed years ago and shelved, the eugenics program against us remains intact. Will counting us make the nsw government not want to steralise us and fund healthcare instead?

if you ever see "if trends continue" followed by some by the year X Y% of people will something assumed bad you should tack infinite years on and see if it goes past 100%. If yes, they think you're stupid and can't think about maths/why induction is often fallacious.