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The head of Telegram, Pavel Durov, has been charged by the French judiciary for allegedly allowing criminal activity on the messaging app but avoided jail with a €5m bail.

The Russian-born multi-billionaire, who has French citizenship, was granted release on condition that he report to a police station twice a week and remain in France, Paris prosecutor Laure Beccuau said in a statement.

The charges against Durov include complicity in the spread of sexual images of children and a litany of other alleged violations on the messaging app.

His surprise arrest has put a spotlight on the criminal liability of Telegram, the popular app with around 1 billion users, and has sparked debate over free speech and government censorship.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Presumably Moxie as well since I'm constantly being told that Signal is the most secure e2ee platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Telegram holds the keys, Signal doesn't

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's right, Signal only holds phone numbers for some unspecified reason.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Meta is literally ad platform for scam. But it’s american, so it’s ok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's the same shit. I was advertised psylocibin shit on facebook before.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that those guys comply with the requests from governments.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

do you agree with this arrest or are you pointing out the double standards ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't really understand how he allowed crime. I can commit crime via sms, whatsapp, signal or mail. Does that mean they allow it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the distinction here is that if your phone provider, WhatsApp, Signal or mail carrier is informed that someone is engaging in illegal activity using their service, these entities would comply and give the information they have on you-- be it a lot like SMS or a little like Signal (phone number, registration date).

In the case of Telegram, they've been informed countless times that specific individuals are engaging in blatantly illegal activity and unlike the previously mentioned entities, Telegram is refusing to comply with any legal requests.

I believe that's the situation but if I'm wrong, by all means correct me because this is a very interesting subject.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, this is the first explanation that's actually clicked for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can commit crime via sms, whatsapp, signal or mail.

But you're not allowed to

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Against the law at the minimum.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

Don't leave out Spez.