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The number 1 easiest way to convince carbrains to support non-car-centric transportation infrastructure (in my experience) (lemmy.world)
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"Giving people more viable alternatives to driving means more people will choose not to drive, so there will be fewer cars on the road, reducing traffic for drivers."

Concise, easy to understand, and accurate. I have used it at least a dozen times and it is remarkable how well it works.

Also—

"A bus is about twice as long as a car so it only needs to have four to six passengers on board to be more efficient than two cars."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

All this “fuck cars, use bikes and public transport” is just a dream of a wealthy white collar society who has lost the touch with reality.

Do you think ~90% of the 30 million people in Shanghai are all white collars who lost touch with society? What about 99% of Singapore?

You cannot expect people to up their commute from 30 minutes one way to 3+ hours, just because the city dwellers don’t like their cars.

These places public transit, including intercity, is far, far superior to driving, so people use it. In America, our public transit is garbage, so people don't use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do you think ~90% of the 30 million people in Shanghai are all white collars who lost touch with society? What about 99% of Singapore?

Those places are so densely populated that they can afford a good public transport system. But look at other cities in the world - or, more precisely, their environment - and you will soon see a serious lack of public transport once you leave the cities. Yes, people are living there.

These places public transit, including intercity, is far, far superior to driving, so people use it.

That is totally fine. I was not talking about city dwellers, they do have access to public transport in most cases. I'm especially talking about the people not living in the city centers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's not actually true. Our decentralized system of roads and cars is actually more expensive than a robust rail and bus system. And I've been to other places, in Europe and South America. They all have better developed mass transit. You don't need to be South Korea. You just have to be willing.