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There will be "severe punishment" following Ukraine's incursion into Russia, according to the Russian ambassador to the US (news.sky.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Vladimir Putin has "made a decision" and there will be "severe punishment" following Ukraine's incursion into Russia, according to the Russian ambassador to the US.

Mr Putin was clearly frustrated at the Ukrainian incursion, but a ruthless Russian military response was only one option. Ukraine is short of military capability - soldiers and weapons - and it appears that they have deployed up to 10,000 soldiers (probably battle-hardened) into Russian territory. This "fixes" these Ukrainian forces well away from the frontline Russian action in the Donbas.

Mr Putin knows that progress on the frontline will slow when winter arrives, so his forces have perhaps 10 to 12 weeks remaining to achieve the objectives of his so-called Special Military Operation. By focusing on Russian main effort in the Donbas, Mr Putin knows that Ukraine has diluted the forces available to resist the Russian assault towards Pokrovsk, which might enable greater progress in the limited time available.

Once Russia's objectives in the Donbas have been achieved, Mr Putin might consider that he can address the Kursk incursion in slower time.

What could 'severe punishment' mean?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Anything worse than what they're been doing already for 2.5 years? I guess nukes is the one thing we haven't seen yet. Possibly 'cause they're rusted to dust due to stolen maintenance funds.

This Kursk thing really pantsed Russia. How embarrassing must it feel to be a nuclear superpower, losing ground.

Makes me wonder if they're even able to see getting invaded as a just response for invading others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Anything worse than what they’re been doing already for 2.5 years?

Maybe. They've been holding out hope that Ukraine & US/Europe would be reasonable, so they avoided committing to full-scale war.

Possibly 'cause they’re rusted to dust due to stolen maintenance funds.

Yes, yes, very edgy, well done.

This Kursk thing really pantsed Russia. How embarrassing must it feel to be a nuclear superpower, losing ground.

Sure, it's an intelligence failure, and a humiliation. But then what? Ukraine moved in 30 km, and now they are stuck fighting to hold insignificant 100-population villages in a strategically irrelevant area. If this was done in Crimea, or Zaporozhie, or Belgorod, it'd be a different discussion.

Makes me wonder if they’re even able to see getting invaded as a just response for invading others.

Oh right, because Ukraine is the just side in all this. Russians go home. Leave the poor Ukrainians alone, so they can go back to genociding half the country and revere their Nazi ancestors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/386/

US/Europe would be reasonable

US/Europe are immensely benefitting from the situation by having someone else punch the bully's teeth into their throat. The monetary cost of military aid is minuscule compared to the loss of life and destruction of infrastructure we'd be having, when Russia would invade the next country, were Ukraine to fall.

Ukraine would be reasonable

Kinda hard to be reasonable when fighting for survival. For your women and kids not being raped. From your kids not being taken away for brainwashing and "reeducation". Look up Bucha mass murders for more info.

avoided committing to full-scale war

What scale is the current one then? Empty-scale? Kinda half-hearted "let's invade a bit and then be friends again"?

it’s an intelligence failure

Wrong tense. It used to be an intelligence failure, but now it's turned into a strength failure, as evidenced by UA destroying bridges and holding territory there. Oh, and a giant PR failure. How many threats to nuke everybody did RU make, if this&that line is crossed? They're been shown as untrustworthy time and again.

Ukraine is the just side

And women are at fault of getting raped? Never forget which side started the war and who is trying to survive.

genociding half the country and revere their Nazi ancestors

Citation needed. When I was last visiting UA, nobody genocided anyone. No Nazis that I could spot. RU-speaking and UA-speaking people coexisted. I know mixed UA/RU families. Which sources do you use, Russian propaganda materials perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

US/Europe are immensely benefitting from the situation by having someone else punch

Weak cowards

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