Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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The child support system is pretty atrocious for everyone involved
Not a chance. For some, for many, yes. But for others it does work reasonably well. It's a big world out there, after all.
It works reasonably well for those that benefit, yea. But for those who don’t stay with the biological mother, your income gets slashed by 20%, reason he damned. No consideration for your well being, your needs, your life, your ability to feed and house yourself. None. You’re a piggy bank, that’s it.
That’s how child support works. I’ve never experienced adult life without it. If you lose your job, you lose your freedom. Period. Even if it’s out of your control.
You’re on disability? You get $0.
You’re behind on payments? You lose your license because of that? Get fucked loser.
Oh you lost your job that doesn’t pay enough to feed you because we took your car? Get fucked.
You’re too far behind, because we stole your ability to make money? Well, now you’re in jail. Interest doesn’t stop though.
Your kids finally turn 18? Too bad, you have to pay all of the accumulated interest from the times we threw you in jail, after taking your car, your job, and your house. Can’t do that? Fuck you, loser. The government eats that money, mom never sees a penny.
The amount you see your child, or take care of your child, doesn’t matter in this scenario. If you have a child outside of the way the government wants you to, you’re fucked.
Deadbeats and active fathers get treated the same, and that’s a problem.