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submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

We don't have to be silly with descriptivism either. Of course languages evolve over time, but speakers also make mistakes that should still be corrected to keep language cohesive. It's the difference between change in body shape from evolution, and an isolated growth that probably shouldn't exist. We use a different word for that second one: cancer.

You gotta have both IMO. Not too rigid, not too flexible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I really hate the idea of saying corrected in this context. There is really no right and wrong in language iself. Standardized language is not some "correct" way to speak, but a common guide to try to help an individual be understood by more people. Someone not following standard is not wrong, just maybe difficult to comprehend due to not following convention. I think in one off mistakes that are hard to understand, it is better to thinking in terms of asking for clarification. In more consistent problems of understanding, I think explaining (which is not the same as correcting) to them a more conventional way of speaking to easy future communication is the best path.

Also equating individuals unique linguistic quirks to cancer is gross.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You can pick a word besides ”correct" but it means sort of the same thing either way: we are moving individual variations of language toward the collective standard.

Languages all have categories of words, general rules for how those categories are applied, exceptions to the rules, and idiomatic parts to name a few. Misconjugating a word is not evolution of language, it is a mistake. Mismatching count is also a mistake. Mixing direct and indirect object pronouns is a mistake. The risk is not "i don't understand you", it is rather that I did understand you, but what I understand is not what you mean. You can call it a "unique linguistic quirk", but if it leads to people misunderstanding you it's a mistake. And yeah, pushing mistakes under a rug of " it's descriptivism" is just as gross as any allegory to runaway cell growth.

If everyone understands you and its not a perfectly grammatically correct construction and lots of people start to use it, sure this is evolution of language. Every deviation is not that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Be mad then I guess lol

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