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So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

When Starmer went on record as saying Israel the right to defend itself. Where was all the talk about saving lives? Now that it's a brown nation that has the right to defend itself, you're calling for de-escalation. Be consistent Frank.

I've seen Starmer condemn Hamas, where has he condemned Israel? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hamas-david-lammy-gaza-palestinians-john-mcdonnell-b2427321.html

In fact, while the world watches Israel commits war crimes, Starmer and yourself continue to throw support their way, vocally and otherwise https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/8/uks-new-pm-starmer-calls-for-urgent-need-for-gaza-ceasefire

Speaking up for people failing to condemn the murdering of innocent men, women and children in shelters, schools and hospitals is abhorrent as far as I'm concerned.

The world will look back on this and a lot of people should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I agree with you, however condemning Israel it all ends up like Corbyn, vilified and attacked with qoutes like 'terrorist sympathizers' by the mainstream media. I hate the UK media like the plague.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

while the world watches Israel commits war crimes, Starmer and yourself continue to throw support their way, vocally and otherwise

Happy to discuss this or indeed anything with anyone, but I won't have my views misrepresented. I've not said this or anything like it, ever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, how else would you like us to interpret

I'm struggling to understand what you think he should have said.

Followed by

Since you agree with the UK government that it's best to settle this through the international systems of diplomacy and justice, would it be fair to say you also agree that Iran shouldn't respond by attacking Israel?

Especially in light of the links above where Starmer clearly isn't impartial.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Big ole assumption on your part here. You don't have to cover every side of a situation when you discuss a specific facet.

Their second quote could certainly be followed by a sentence reflecting on Israel's massive issues, without losing the consistency of narrative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I would like you to interpet it at face value. It does not say that I support Israel committing war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Brits haven't even come to terms with the shit they did in India you think they'll ever own up to the chaos they've caused in the Middle East?

Just take comfort that the UK is an irrelevance now.