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I think not cheering up for actions that will not lead to the end of this war is the most intelligent thing to do in this case.
Strengthening Ukraine's position in any way imaginable is the only thing that has a chance to lead to an end of this war.
Strengthening authoritarian ukraine government in any way imaginable and squeeze them against russia will only result in war and misery for people.
Russia is kinda doing the squeezing, sorry mate. Their actions are what's resulting in war and misery. Letting them have their way would lead to more war and more misery for even more people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland#Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
Do you really think west governments give a shit about ukrainians while they are openly supporting the genocide in gaza and helping israel getting away with it?
You're still here? Go away with your "infinitely changeable" Wikipedia links. Also Whataboutism. Ruzzia invaded Ukraine. Plain and simple. GTFO out of Ukraine. Game over. No more lives lost.
So you're saying Russia should stop the invasion so the war ends? I agree full heartedly.
Invading them back give them 0 reason to stop it
Right back at ya, my vatnik friend ;)
Edit: See, if you're gonna (try to) apply logical reasoning, you have to apply it consistently and objectively. Otherwise it stops being logic and turns into dogma.
Let's hear a logical reasoning from you about how this war should end
Pootin pulls all troops from Ukraine. Pretty god damned simple.