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Received dm's can't be deleted? Dm's can't be closed? (reddthat.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This should be a pretty basic feature, just not having a private message be there anymore. But for some reason that does not work here?

I tried searching for this. I found a year old open issue on GitHub and some reddit users complaining about this very issue.

Talking with some people in the comments here, it seems like some people don't understand that one might not want a message to be in their face. Or the idea that just because something could be recovered doesn't mean we should treat it as an absolute

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good luck with that. Once the post federates out, the host instance can request for deletion, but any federated instances that receives the content doesn’t necessarily have to follow that request. They could easily modify their instance to not delete, they may reactivate the content from moderation log, they might have backup strategies that involves retaining data (for their own local legal reasons), etc etc.

It’s probably best to assume any content that you post on Lemmy are out of your control and will live for much longer than you’d expect.

This is not limited to just Lemmy but any federated systems. So regardless centralized corporation behind the service, or an open federated system; one way or another, whatever you post out there, its no longer yours to control.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do always assume any content I put out is out there forever.

This argument "other people do it wrong, and it can't be guaranteed perfect" is not a good excuse to be negligent with people's data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don’t care for the argument one way or another; I’m not an EU resident and the whole thing is irrelevant to me as an individual.

I’m merely pointing out neither the Fediverse/Lemmy/etc. nor Reddit as a platform cares for EU’s privacy concerns, and people should be well informed when entering either platforms, so they’re not doing so with the false sense of security that they’d be able to exercise those government granted rights effectively.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Congrats, I already said I agreed with that. Still doesn't excuse negligence, and we shouldn't allow that behaviour completely unchecked

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks for pointing it out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This is not limited to just Lemmy but any federated systems.

Not just federated systems, things like the Wayback Machine exist too, web crawlers, people can save websites too (every web browser has a save option), or you can self host an archiving crawler if you want to backup a certain website, data hoarders exist.