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Decentralised YouTube alternative Odysee no longer serving ads (odysee.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Odysee, a decentralised YouTube alternative focused on free speech, is officially ending the serving of ads on the platform, starting today. The post:

"Dear friends of Odysee, Starting today, we're removing all ads. We don't need ads to make money as a platform and we are confident in the development of our own new monetisation programs that will help creators earn a living and at the same time keep Odysee alive. Ultimately, sacrificing the overall user experience to make a few bucks isn't worth it to us and nor is it even sustainable for a platform that wishes to make something truly open and creatively free.

As we take this decision, one thing is certain to us, media platforms (even ones that market themselves as 'free-speech') typically devolve into advertising companies and end up becoming beholden to their paymasters. It's been that way for centuries and is never going to change.

As we see YouTube become more aggressive with their ad deployment and 'Free Speech' platforms try to build their own ad businesses it's apparent to us that we're building a model for Odysee that will keep it sustainable not only financially, but in its ability to provide an incorruptible user experience.

Our approach may be considered niche or unconventional, that's fine by us. Odysee will be used by the world on terms that are agreeable to its users, and we know our users don't like ads.

Best, Founder & Creator, Chief Executive Officer. Julian Chandra"

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"free-speech" ❌ "you can say shit uncontrolably" ✅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You cannot say things "uncontrollably" as there is still a community guidelines set of rules that just aren't as strict as YouTube's, plus the ability to report is there too. Despite being a free speech platform, it is still legally required not to host illegal content, and so these community guidelines absolutely must be there. If the comments or videos directly promote violence or hatred (just two examples), they are grounds for removal by site moderators. They are usually only removed when people report them, though, since the moderation team likely isn't very large at this point in time.

In my 2 years with Odysee, I've found one person earlier this year directly promoting extreme violence in a comment section. That's one time too many; but it's still a long time. I reported them, and they were removed. I don't know how long it took for them to remove it though, because I only checked if the comment was still there after a couple of weeks; and it wasn't; so I can't speak for the swiftness of the moderators in their actions yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One problem is when sometimes reporting doesn't work, and the shit stays there possibly forever, even after "human" review.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well if you report a video about a conspiracy theory for example, it won't be removed unless it directly promotes or incites violence or hatred toward a particular person or group(s) if people. You may not like the content, but if it does not break the rules specifically laid out in the guidelines, it is not grounds for removal. The platforms goal is to allow as much free speech as is reasonable (and legal), not to allow people to say absolutely anything they want with no repercussions.