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The Left In The USA Is Really Diverse (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The important question is: Once you reach the end of the pipeline, do you stop making memes and only read theory, or do you still make memes for those that are below the pipeline (or I guess above the pipeline since pipelines go down)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If making memes is what you like to do, ideally you read some theory to help make memes that better convey ML ideas. Only reading theory is not enough by itself.

Also I kinda will walk back, or maybe clarify, a little of what I said, specifically about Hasan "occupying an important niche". Whilst he occupies that niche, that's not to say that he's the only person in that niche nor that there's only room for one person in there. Also not saying that someone else cant come along and do better.

But the real world results matter and I know there are a lot of people here who might not be here without Hasan, myself included. And remember not everyone is going to become a Marxist when you're that high up on the pipeline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And remember not everyone is going to become a Marxist when you're that high up on the pipeline.

Can you please elaborate a bit more on this last part?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're trying to get as many people introduced to Marxist ideas as possible. And whilst you will get some people to explore further down and eventually some will become Marxists, others will reject it or stay aligned on only certain issues. That's just how it is.

This kind of applies to every level of radicalization to be honest, bar like once someone grasps the historical materialist/scientific interpretation of history. But that is much further down the pipeline than someone like Hasan is.

So for example he will have some viewers who become Marxists after hearing the deprogram podcast and then checking out Hakim, and then falling even further down (Hasan has been on the deprogram), whilst some viewers might stay and watch Hasan only for info about Palestine, or some may stay social democrats.