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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good advocate. Anyway, "God not stopping evil, maybe he don’t because it go against free will" - That enters the loop at the bottom. Could God create a universe where free will exists, but evil does not exist? If yes, then why didn't He? If He could not create such a universe, then he's not all powerful and/or not all loving and good.

"About the not loving, he promises a perfect infinity world after all of this" - Then why do we have to go through this initial, temporary and imperfect part?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe free will requires the infinite complexity of this world and hence must also contain “evil” in some way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's trying to sidestep the answer, but it just loops back: could God create an "infinitely complex" world with free will where evil does not need to exist? I'm effectively asking the same question, "could God create a universe with free will and without evil"?

Assuming that your assertion is true, that the infinite complexity of this world must contain evil, then God is not all powerful nor all loving.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. To be all powerful does God need to be able to create paradoxes? Things that are and aren’t? I think that by limiting choices, free will is no longer fully free.

The all loving part I think gets resolved by the free will idea, too — he’s not going to step in and be a nanny.

I’m not really advocating for some biblical God, btw. Though, admittedly, I am spiritual in different senses which might overlap with the biblical God in some ways.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Choices are already limited... by our brains. Some people choose to stick objects up their urethra. Based on statistical probability, I would guess you do not. Does the fact that your brain limits you from making that choice mean your will is not free? You didn't choose which brain you would get. Or are you going to go stick something up there to prove how free you are?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Then god is not all powerful