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It may be selfish but i don't want a reddit migration. I don't hate redditors cuz i was one (ok i do hate em but only the regular hate redditors have for each other) but if this place became as popular as that one, it would bring with it the things i deliberately left behind.
Lemmy is great the way it is
I don't think so. I think Lemmy already & inherently has many of the same problems. People are people, no matter where you go.
Lemmy is only better because it's not centrally controlled.
The problems would only get exacerbated if more of them migrate over here, that's the issue. I don't think decentralization would solve the issues that'd come with people mass redditposting and shitting all over the place, especially considering the vast majority of users are in lemmy.world, so what good would that do when the majority of the userbase are centralized in a single instance?
I doubt that it would make Lemmy significantly worse. I've already had to block nearly a hundred lemmy communities for containing the "mindless trash" that is abundant on reddit. The reality is that most people aren't smart and don't want to browse and participate in intellectual content. They want to mindlessly scroll through endless memes. I have not observed that people on lemmy are overall more intelligent than people on reddit.
Because it's literally the same userbase, 99% of people here came from Reddit for one reason or another. It's a fact that any community that grows too mainstream starts to decline in quality, so if you think Lemmy already has too much garbage you really don't want it to become mainstream. Proportionally we have way less spam, astroturfing and just idiotic bullshit being posted outside of meme subs here, attracting more users would make all of these things more prevalent and no amount of decentralization would solve that unless people started to mass defederate, but at that point why even bother with activitypub in the first place. It's kind of like the people in Beehaw that not only chose this platform but also want to federate with other instances but they're constantly crying and complaining about other instances, threatening to leave the platform... Like, why even bother with activitypub?
I'm of the belief that more people more opinions wether you agree or not with them is always better. Reddit and here on Lemmy is both an "echo chamber" of there own making.
Right on brother.
As to the second part, I guess i see what you're saying. Reddit had its own hidey-holes and echo chambers where you could hear different opinions, not so different from here. Federation and defederation between instances act in much the same way (perhaps due to lemmys small size) as the effect as staying in a few niche subreddits. Traversing between instances is familiar, not too different than leaving your sub and scrolling /all.
Hmmm. Hmmm. I guess you're right, at least the way i use(d) them.
Perhaps the only difference between them is reddit's success and enshittified corporate rent-seeking. Those guys all sound the same and end up making a place same-y and sterilized
Same, there's still plenty of room for growth but I don't want it to ever pass like 2012 reddit level of activity, which was still a lot. But federation tech is also a solution if I ever feel that's a problem so meh, come on over.
2011-12 is when i discovered reddit coincidentally. Oh no...
I believe that federation is the solution to toxic community.
In my single year here I've seen what i consider some of federation's limits. It's still too easy to fed and defed their way to an echo chamber, which to me is it's own type of toxicity.
But you're right because the answer to that is multiple accounts, whereas in a centralized server there are fewer players dictating and therefore fewer options.