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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Every self professed attempt in history to enact socialism either has already been declared not good enough to count as socialism, or will be declared as such in the future, when it gets even worse.

Declared by who? I would much rather be living in a tier 1 city in China right now personally. Or in Cuba if the US ever stopped strangling it.

The labor theory of value is so poor as to be indefensible, and scarcity is a property of nature, rather than capitalism.

I agree, David Ricardo was incorrect, and Marx's refutation in his theory of value explains the creation of value much better.

and scarcity is a property of nature, rather than capitalism

Scarcity is a property of nature and artificial scarcity is a product of commodity fetishism (necessary for capitalism to function)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Declared by who?

Implicitly, by everyone that does not herald the successes of those self professed socialist economies. Explicitly, by too many individuals in too many circumstances to usefully list.

I would much rather be living in a tier 1 city in China right now personally. Or in Cuba if the US ever stopped strangling it.

I mean this sincerely; please move. If you are correct, you will benefit the world overall and yourself.

I agree, David Ricardo was incorrect, and Marx’s refutation in his theory of value explains the creation of value much better. (Imagine reading Marx and not Wikipedia on Marx)

I have only read "Das Kapital", and only by translation. Marx directly asserts the equivalency between the value of a good, and the amount of labor-time that it takes to produce that good on average (accounting for the labor-time that it took to produce tools and raw materials necessary to that process). That is the labor theory of value in a nutshell.

artificial scarcity is a product of commodity fetishism (necessary for capitalism to function)

If you believe that the scarcity we face is largely artificial, then either move to a country further on its way to communism, or start a company that will pay workers a more equal share of the value they produce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean this sincerely; please move. If you are correct, you will benefit the world overall and yourself.

Do you know how much money it takes to move? Lol

I have only read “Das Kapital”, and only by translation. Marx directly asserts the equivalency between the value of a good, and the amount of labor-time that it takes to produce that good on average (accounting for the labor-time that it took to produce tools and raw materials necessary to that process). That is the labor theory of value in a nutshell.

Frankly, this is summary as reductive as Ricardo's initial theory, and not what Marx wrote

If you believe that the scarcity we face is largely artificial, then either move to a country further on its way to communism, or start a company that will pay workers a more equal share of the value they produce.

Lol yeah gonna abolish the commodity form by starting a company. You didn't read capital lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I have only read "Das Kapital"

If you believe that the scarcity we face is largely artificial, then either move to a country further on its way to communism, or start a company that will pay workers a more equal share of the value they produce.

What an excellent way to reveal you haven't actually read Marx