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This guy just walked into the capitol of the United States and criticized the American people for exercising their first amendment right. The audacity.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

he tries to walk in Zelensky's footsteps but fails on so many fronts: while Ukraine was the victim of oppression, Israel state is the source of it, ICC issued warrant for Putin and.. Netanyahu (it's interesting how US chose to ignore court order).

Hamas and Israel state work towards the same goal - maintain instability for their personal gain. Anybody glorifying Hamas is either stupidd or naive, so are people glorifying Israely army. To be solved this conflict requires new powers to arise on both sides that are ready for dialog and tired of fighting and able to sidestep existing powrr structures (or demolish them).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas whether you like it or not is justified and legal. Hamas wouldn’t exist without the occupation, it is a resistance to it that is protected by international laws. Palestinian society similarly won’t be radicalized to pick up arms and fight if it weren’t for the occupation.

In an ideal world I would only support the PFLP (secular, founded by George Habash) but in an ideal world Israel wouldn’t be able to cut off Gaza’s water, fuel and food either, and the PFLP let alone Hamas would have no reason to exist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree with cause and effect argument. I'm dealing more with present situation as-is. You have (indirectly) confirmed that it's in Hamas' interest to keep conflict alive to exist as an entity. (Note: I did not disregard points on Israel being the oppressor)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This conclusion contradicts reality.

Hamas has called for elections numerous times, elections that have been prevented either by the Palestinian Authority or by Israel. https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-elections-religion-government-and-politics-e88636bc919f8aab455e01fbbd4b4391

Hamas also accepts a state on 1967 borders, meanwhile Likud always opposed any Palestinian state on any part of historical Palestine. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/01/hamas-new-charter-palestine-israel-1967-borders

Hamas has also offered to drop their weapons if a Palestinian state is established. https://apnews.com/article/hamas-khalil-alhayya-qatar-ceasefire-1967-borders-4912532b11a9cec29464eab234045438

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

he isn't failing. people applaud him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

that's not what we're hearing from Harris. She'll be dancing on a tight rope, but she clearly signaled that Israel has crossed the line. Lets see what are the consequences.