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This is a community for designs specifically crafted to make the experience worse for the user. This can be due to greed, apathy, laziness or just downright scumbaggery.

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This is after forcing login to a store account:

At least they don’t hide in their ToS that:

“l agree to let Walmart monitor my use of Walmart WiFi, including to:

  • Determine my presence in Walmart stores
  • Associate information about me with my Walmart account
  • Improve products and services
  • Gather market insights about my in-store purchases and activities”

But that’s not enough, they need to monitor your internet activity further too.


For further reading, some greatest hits (the section headers on Wiki’s Criticism of Walmart):

  • Local communities
  • Allegations of predatory pricing and supplier issues
  • Labor relations
  • Poorly run and understaffed stores
  • No AEDs in stores (automated external defibrillators)
  • Imports and globalization
  • Product selection
  • Taxes
  • Animal welfare
  • Midtown Walmart
  • Opioids settlement
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (51 children)

Nah. Their network their rules. Quit your bitching or use 5g.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

privacy sacrifice to use internet in their cavernous dead zone of a building

It was a worthwhile sacrifice, but I’m definitely gonna name & shame! Wouldn’t touch WiFi if it weren’t a dead zone.

Also gave me a chance to complain about some of their other business practices. (Certainly wouldn’t have shopped there if I hadn’t been asked to this one time.)

I’ve never seen this message before so they seem an outlier even in the greedy corporate world. Enough complaints and every once in a while a business changes their practices. Why not whine a little? 🙂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Every public WiFi is like this. iCloud relay doesn’t work on any airport or airplane WiFi. I need to always turn it off and other ‘hide IP’ settings. I have a Target with a dead zone and I’m sure T&C are the same. I just use it when I need it and don’t auto-connect. Walmart needs precise location to pick up from the app. Sam’s club app needs precise location for checkout form the app. Mcd app needs my precise location to give me deals. I wouldn’t say this is asshole design. Our regulation let them design it this way. I turn off my NextDNS and iCloud relay when I’m having issues and then turn back on. Nothing else you can do about it, apart from not using the WiFi or app, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The privacy community and yourself have become the equivalent of windows UAC. It's tiresome and no sane person with an understanding of technology would ever have the expectation of privacy on a public WiFi network. There are legal and compliance obligations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude, I understand technolgy enough to know that when I use the HTTPS protocol, I have privacy on my packets.

You keep trying to associate the expectation of privacy with a lack of technical knowledge, but I have technical knowledge and you’re wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Why because you know what https means?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's the legal and compliance part the downvotes don't understand.

As a business, I would never operate an open-to-the-public network. The liability is too great.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

How is allowing people to use a VPN a legal/compliance issue? If anything the traffic is exiting to the internet elsewhere and because it’s encrypted you can’t see what’s happening, essentially offloading responsibility to someone else while still providing access.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

And what y’all legal and compliance people don’t understand is that we make the rules. Life is not just about complying with rules. It’s about making them too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

complaining about a lack of privacy on a public wifi node is like complaining that people are perverts for looking at your genitals when you run down the street naked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

More like calling them perverts when they tell you that you can’t come into their store with your clothes on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More like "calling your neighbor a pervert when they offer you a place to shower when yours is out and you find out they're taking videos" but okay

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

No, cause you have an expectation of privacy in a shower. You don't have an expectation of privacy in public.

No reasonable person has an expectation of privacy on a public wifi, hell most people wont even connect to a public wifi because they dont want to take the unnecessary risk. Especially with a public wifi provided by such stellar companies like Walmart.

Which is why the entire argument is as stupid as getting angry at people looking at your junk when you're running around naked in public.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I have an expectation of privacy in my motor home when showering, even if I’m using water that’s coming from some private entity’s pipes.

Just the same way that on my own phone I have an expectation of privacy, even if I’m using connectivity coming from some private entity’s pipes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's more like calling your neighbor a pervert when they force you to undress in front of them prior to showering, or force you to go out naked in public. There's no legitimate reason to block vpn tools aside from bathwidth or tracking issues, the former can be handled by QoS and the latter isn't an issue unless you're using your "free Wi-Fi" to harvest data.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You drove more than one teacher into retirement, didnt you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You lack empathy, don't ya? Selfish. The world could use less "that's just the way it is" people. Teachers or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It's sad you're proud enough of that comment to link it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You ran out of retorts, didn’t you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

No, I just don't have any interest in continually slamming my dick in the sliding door of someone elses willful ignorance and stupidity.

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