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Trump says Taiwan should pay the US for its defence as ‘it doesn’t give us anything’
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2024
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well that's good. but the microchip industry is why we're protecting Taiwan for the most part, right? besides the whole having a foothold in the sea near China just to annoy them
I imagine geopolitical concerns are the primary reason for US interest in controlling Taiwan. I'm not even sure what US is protecting the chip industry from exactly. It's not like US isn't utterly dependent on China for manufacturing already, and China is clearly perfectly happy to export chips to US. The whole problem ultimately stems from the irrational US policy towards China.
I work closely with people in Taiwan and China is DEFINITELY the asshole in the situation. Like a big bad "You need to get punched in the face until you stop assholing" asshole. The nuance is almost all manufactured, like Twinkies and Fox News outrage. Like for real, super seriously. Like how Russia is the asshole in the Ukraine and how Israel is the asshole in well... Israel.
While the US govt. has selfish economic and ideological reasons for supporting Taiwan, it is ONE thing I'm in favor of it doing. I don't like bullies. No one should like bullies.
You lost me at denying the existence of Palestine
US is literally the global bully that's fucking around in China's internal affairs here. Not only that, but US is a deplorable kind of bully that speaks with a forked tongue:
https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-taiwan/
I don't disagree.
But that doesn't change anything I said. The US does not have a monopoly on assholery.
EDIT: Who would downvote this other than sockpuppet accounts controlled by OP? Maybe some idiot tankies, I guess. lol.
You said nothing.
Yet, US is the asshole that's coming half way across the world to meddle in another country's internal affairs. It'd be akin to China funding and arming an independence movement in Texas.
No, it would be akin to China funding and arming the US if England decided to say "Hey, you used to be English! We think you still are. We plan to come over there and replace your government. Also, we're murdering our own citizens if they strongly disagree with this policy."
Are you gonna deny that? It's a SUPER bad look.
Taiwan is literally a province of China as even US acknowledges. The SUPER bad look is to try and justify the interference by burger empire in other countries.
I talk to people there everyday. Taiwan doesn't WANT to be a province of China and anyone who thinks it should be is a dick (and probably a sock puppet for the Chinese Communist Party - it's gonna be pretty hard to keep doing your job here without looking just like one of those). End of discussion.
Wait till you find out about the concept of selection bias.
Meanwhile, ideas don't form in a vacuum. US had political capture of Taiwan for many decades drowning it in its propaganda. US interference in Taiwan politics and media is very well documented. US has poured countless millions into shaping the opinions of the people in Taiwan through orgs like NED, it directly grooms US politicians such as Tsai Ing-Wen. This is what's known as cultural hegemony.
Sunflower Movement Leader Lin Fei-fan’s Associations with the US NED
Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)’s regular Reporting to AIT
However, despite all that, the overwhelming majority of people in Taiwan want to maintain the status quo. The desire for Taiwanese independence has experienced a significant drop over the past three years, with only 25.3% of people who want to “move toward independence” or seeking “independence as soon as possible” - down from nearly one-third - 32.4% - in 2020.
https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/eng/PageDoc?fid=7424
So yea, end of discussion. You're a peddler of imperialism and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Yes, it's all the US doing this to poor China... Sure. Okay.
It's literally the burger empire coming half way across the world to fuck around in China's internal affairs. I sincerely hope Russia starts funding and supporting a separatist movement in Texas, so that burgerlanders can experience what that feels like first hand.
Russia doesn't need to do that. Burgerlanders already experience it through the magical way they render themselves blind to their government's behaviour unless it's projected onto China or Russia. Like how Trump is a Russian asset and China is turning Cuba into a staging ground for an invasion.
lol good point