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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (8 children)

"At birth" isn't an ideal - it's a fact. FFS - it's in the actual name of the certificate.

The exact and only point of a birth certificate is to record that on such-and-such date at such-and-such time, a baby was born to [this] person, and it possessed [these] distinguishing characteristics. That's it. Who or what that baby became later in life isn't relevant. At all.

In literally any circumstance where a birth certificate is needed, “now” is going to be more useful than information that is decades out of date.

Which is in fact exactly why I said that "that’s an argument against using, or requiring, a birth certificate as ID" - because a birth certificate, of necessity, is a record of information that's significantly out-of-date.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The ideal in question isn't "at birth", it's whatever it is that drives folk to think "at birth" somehow matters more than "now"

because a birth certificate, of necessity, is a record of information that's significantly out-of-date.

There is no such necessity. I live in Australia. Here, trans folk can get their birth certificate amended to reflect their correct gender.

If it was a "necessity" that it not be changed, that wouldn't be possible.

Your insistence that it can't be changed "for reasons" isn't a necessity, it's an ideal (and a harmful one at that).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do they maintain a record of it's alterations though.

Ed: answer yes, so there is still record that it is not your birth gender it just isn't easily accessible unless the legal system gets involved.

If you were born in N.S.W. and have had gender reassignment surgery, you can apply to have your birth certificate amended to reflect your correct gender. The new birth certificate will not show that you have changed your gender, but there will be a note on your new certificate that says your birth was "previously registered in another name". Your birth will be registered in the current year showing the new sex. Access to your original birth record is restricted by legislation, but can be accessed under certain circumstances

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, which is fine. A record of all amendments to official documents is expected. That's not the issue though. The issue is the version of the document that people need to use in daily life. And that should be relevant and current.

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