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JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick (kyivindependent.com)

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Vance is one of Trump's most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be "completely irresponsible" for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

"Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you're gonna have a peace deal, because that's the only way out of the conflict," Vance said in February.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But someone that blatantly argues for Russia's benefit probably has some ulterior motives. Doesn't have to be deep throating Putin, money will probably do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean it sounds like he wants chea p Russian labor and goods to compete with Chinese versions of the same.

He's a Republican. He just wants to personally get rich and doesn't consider or care what happens to other people on the way to it. Sacrificing half a country that isn't his so that an oligarchy can turn around and sell back the oil, gas and coal of the land and potentially farm goods at a cheaper slave labor produced price sounds like shrewd business practice to him probably and figures it would get him on the good side of Putin a man with powerful connections.

He misses the mark that China and Russia are working together and you can't really separate that to get one to hurt more than the other. But that's getting to much in the weeds of his plans.

I know it's hard but people generally aren't some evil spy or some terrible monster aiming to cause destruction. A lot are just people. Self centered and uncaring of the pain they cause and sure they didn't do anything wrong cause it was supposed to work out for them. People don't need to get paid first to be awful.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not Republican.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Everyone uses third person pronouns to refer to Vance and the suddenly you can't figure it out when faced with a counter argument?

Really? Are you for real?