this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2024

713 points (97.2% liked)

World News

39364 readers

2192 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]

Recommendations

How to spot Misinformation and Propaganda

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

713

JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick (kyivindependent.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

239 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Vance is one of Trump's most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

. . .

Vance has said that it would be "completely irresponsible" for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

"Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you're gonna have a peace deal, because that's the only way out of the conflict," Vance said in February.

MBFC
Archive

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Can you tell me the country? I want to educate myself.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

redacted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree with a lot of what you said, but the US inventing Islamic fundamentalism is a comical take.

Abrahamic extremists have been useful idiots of those in power for thousands of years. The US is just the latest to take advantage.

The real problem there is religion is poison

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

redacted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Theocratic hell hole say what?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Wasn't USA siding with Phalavi against Khomeini?

I think you might have to point into another direction in that case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

redacted

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, the US backed Pavlavi, they're the ones that gave him power over the more democratic system they had before. He hunted people (primarily leftists) down with secret police and ran the country terribly, as the resource colony it was, to the point that the conditions were created for a revolution, and since most of the leftists had been killed, the fundamentalists were able to take advantage of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I should even reply to this pile of disinformation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's literally recorded history. Read any history book about Iran (I recommend All The Shah's Men), or even Wikipedia. The historical record is not "disinformation" just because you're ignorant of it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

History, yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi

In 1963, Mohammad Reza introduced the White Revolution, a series of economic, social, and political reforms aimed at transforming Iran into a global power and modernizing the nation by nationalizing key industries and redistributing land. The regime also implemented Iranian nationalist policies establishing Cyrus the Great, the Cyrus Cylinder, and the Tomb of Cyrus the Great as popular symbols of Iran. The Shah initiated major investments in infrastructure, subsidies and land grants for peasant populations, profit sharing for industrial workers, construction of nuclear facilities, nationalization of Iran's natural resources, and literacy programs which were considered some of the most effective in the world. Shah also instituted economic policy tariffs and preferential loans to Iranian businesses which sought to create an independent economy for the nation. Manufacturing of cars, appliances, and other goods in Iran increased substantially, leading to the creation of a new industrialist class insulated from threats of foreign competition. By the 1970s, Shah was seen as a master statesman and used his growing power to pass the 1973 Sale and Purchase Agreement. These reforms culminated in decades of sustained economic growth that would make Iran one of the fastest-growing economies among both the developed world and the developing world. During his 37-year-long rule, Iran spent billions of dollars' worth on industry, education, health, and military spending and enjoyed economic growth rates exceeding the United States, the United Kingdom, and France. Likewise, the Iranian national income rose 423 times over, and the country saw an unprecedented rise in per capita income—which reached the highest level of any point in Iran's history—and high levels of urbanization. By 1977, Mohammad Reza's focus on defense spending, which he saw as a means to end foreign powers' intervention in the country, had culminated in the Iranian military standing as the world's fifth-strongest armed force.[5]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The first link is about a different incident. During WWII, the Allies were concerned about the possibility of Iranian oil falling into the hands of the Nazis, and they also wanted to set up a supply corridor to connect themselves, so when the Iranian king that Britain had installed refused to cooperate, they invaded, deposed him, and instituted his son in his place. However, the monarchy was still bound by parliament at the time, until the US overthrew the prime minister and granted the shah absolute power, accountable to no one.

I didn't expect to find an unironic monarchist on here. It's true that he instituted some programs over the course of his 37 year reign, but they weren't nearly enough, the country was still a dictatorship and people were very unhappy with living under his rule.