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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have to say these desktops look to damn confusing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are way too many bars that look like dockable windows, the stuff at the bottom. Lots of stuff looking like decorations (but in general these buttons are confusing af even macOS is better than that.

And at the top it looks like the whole desktop is a window with decoration??

In general low contrast, too many strange thin things, no clear icons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is a screenshot of window running a VM, so yes it is a window running a whole desktop. The top window decoration, menu bar, and the very bottom panel are not part of the old desktop, but rather from the modern host system.

I agree though, it is confusing. Main problem (and I remember this) is that this is Gnome with Enlightenment as a wm, and Enlightenment had aspirations to be more than a wm. So there's some duplication of effort there, and no integration/communication between the two projects (Gnome in the next version used sawfish/sawmill as wm, which was more coordinated with Gnome).

Enlightenment has/had its own toolkit, which you can see here in the DOX window, which is different from Gtk. Enlightenment also has a bunch of widgets, like the top bar and the stuff in the bottom corners, which are non-Gnome and clash with and are on top of the Gnome panel. The desktop icons are also zero pixels under the Enlightenment top bar, which suggest the people responsible weren't coordinating at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Interesting! This explains a lot, thanks!

Happy to be a Linux user in 2024!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Of course I am not talking about Windows ;)