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I don't disagree with the underlying idea here
But I would also caution heavily against doubting the simplest explanation: some unwell person, possibly a fallen Trump fan (groyper types angry he supports Israel) or some delusional Biden fan, whatever, just someone mad because Trump does objectively suck shit. Someone who hated him is the most obvious and simplest explanation and should be the assumption unless or until convincing evidence otherwise comes out.
I don't think it's entirely out of the question that this was a CIA op, like the assassination of JFK probably was. Trump is treading on a lot of toes, after all- with the possibility of "peace with Russia" (not that I think he could succeed against the blob there), or the (also almost certainly unfounded) hysteria around "leaving NATO" (or extorting the other NATO members, anyways) as well as the fact that the Biden admin is absolutely guilty of a whole slew of crimes they don't want getting dug up.
Either that, or it was an unwell person, someone who hated him- he's a very hateable person TBH (though anyone with sense should understand, he's just as vile as the rest of DC regardless of party affiliation and if anything refreshingly incompetent/not with a death wish for his country).
The most obvious explanation as you said should be the assumption- but that this happened after he met with Orban (who for all his faults has been genuinely trying to prevent WW3, meeting Zelensky/Putin/Xi and then getting rebuffed by Biden before meeting Trump) stinks to me.
yeah. i’m pretty sure it was someone who wanted to be a hero and thought they were going to save america by shooting trump
I ain't busting out the tinfoil hat just yet, because it's entirely possible with all the fearmongering of making Trump the antithesis of freedom, that some unwell person might think they're saving the world by attacking him, but so much of it feels... off. I can't help but be suspicious. That said, I'll withhold any final conclusions until experts can investigate and weigh in.
The right wing will be going hog wild for the next... forever... if this turns out to a clear cut assassination attempt as it now appears. Expect weaponization of the term "stochastic terrorism" against the democrat types. And, to an extent, they won't be wrong. If you call a guy Hitler 2.0 you are kinda telling people to stop that guy. Of course they ddi the same thing with the 2020 election calling it stolen. If you truly believed there was a deep state coup, isn't it logical to do something maybe like Jan 6? Right wingers are always better at the bad faith messaging though, so, I see absolutely nothing good coming from this. Maybe some good memes.
Unfortunately, I just heard the word going around that someone in the crowd died, so it does definitely appear at the very least real shots were going into the crowd. None of that has been verified, as far as I can tell, but I'm sure we'll get all the details by tomorrow if not in the next few hours. It's not looking good either way, sadly. You're right that the right wing is going to use this for all the mileage it'll get, stunt or not.