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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their first mistake? Not being able to identify a lying fucking narcissist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, their first mistake was launching a military operation that depended on Starlink connectivity to a region that they knew was already cut off from Starlink due to sanctions on Russia on the assumption that they'd be able to convince an American company to turn it on for them in the middle of the attack, thus violating some very serious American laws preventing that sort of thing from happening.

I know the overwhelming narrative on the Internet is "Ukraine good, Elon bad", but in this case it really seems to me like the screwup was on Ukraine's side here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I always got the sense from the story that Ukraine didn't know it wasn't going to work in Crimea. When they realized, they begged him to turn it back on, because they thought he turned it off.

But it was never on and he refused to turn it on.

They also knew they weren't allowed to use it that way and tried anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

If they hadn't known that it wasn't on then that would be a pretty big part of the screwup, I'm sure Starlink wasn't keeping it a secret that there was no service there.