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Suggest me a secure chat platform for my family (programming.dev)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I am searching for a selfhosted and secure (end to end encryption) chat platform for my family (5-20 users), possibly one i can host on a raspi.

Is matrix a good choice, or should i try something else?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol, Snikket/xmpp has been suggested multiple times, and it is as good if not better regarding "wide cross platform" support. To get the same with Matrix you basically have to use a web-client or Electron, while XMPP has very efficient native clients.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

just looked it up and couldn’t find a decent client for ios. There was Monal but it looks more like a draft rather than a finished application. Things don’t even have padding or margins. The snikket one I won’t even mention, you can’t expect people to use something that gives them visual discomfort.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I originally suggested Monal to my friend (who is quite into iOS and really appreciates a well designed application) and she found the same, but then she tried Siskin, and was happy enough to use it to this day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Visual discomfort because it looks like an slightly older app? What kind of issue is that???

And Monal has improved a lot in recent months, the current version is mostly fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

…exactly the kind that discourages 60-something, non-technical family members.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It discourages 60-something nontechnical family members that the app looks like WhatsApp? Are you being serious?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Visual discomfort because it looks like an slightly older app? What kind of issue is that???

You've met an iOS user.