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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

So, I'm not exactly well versed in all this, could you fill me in on what threats Huawei poses to I, a random poor person going about my day in the US?

I refuse to believe a Corp or the NSA isn't already looking over my shoulder, and with nothing to steal, wouldn't using Huawei tech be like picking between McDonald's and Wendy's? Same product, different flavor sort of situation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

it's a game of influence and data collection. Even when you work at McDonalds they still can use you either as data point or leverage information gathered influence/coerce you to do things on their behalf. Look at their control level in China - your behaviour is constantly monitored and your life options get limited in life if your behaviour does not align with CPP expectations. Given that lots of stuff originates in China, would you like prices online be higher for you just because you've criticised CCP? Or, more invasively - some content disappearing from your device while bring substituted with some form of fake news etc? Randsomware is still a vector as well. Opportunities for benefiting CCP are endless once they own key device(s) in today's economy: your smartphone, that is used for company logon, bank operations, personal information storage. Imagine dataset they can feed AI yo simulate you and sll the fraud they can perpetrate under your name. Or they can wipe you off internet, closing your accounts pretending to be you and intercepting all communications. India and China already been proven using coercive powers to silence dissent abroad. So, no, it's not just specific industries. It's collective Western citizens.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

could you fill me in on what threats Huawei poses to I, a random poor person going about my day in the US?

One example: You are likely employed by a business here in the USA. If you were to lose your job, that would be a large negative in your life. The NSA isn't going to ruin an American business unless its the extremely small chance that there's a national security reason. The CCP would absolutely ruin an American business if it helped a Chinese one. Unless you work for a Chinese employer, the NSA snooping on you would be more beneficial to you than the CCP.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I get that, but I'm taking on a practical point. I, a warm body behind a counter of a franchise in the Midwest, am not privy to any valuable corporate information that can't be gleamed by simply walking into the store. We don't have WiFi and I can't plug my phone in. What is the espionage device in my pocket actually going to do to me on my day to day life of browsing Lemmy and playing music?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is the espionage device in my pocket actually going to do to me on my day to day life of browsing Lemmy and playing music?

In your case its not so much the device in your pocket, but the telecom switching gear on the backend that all that corporate and government data flows though. Huawei makes lots of that gear.

In specific cases of phones, while your job may not be high value for espionage , there are lots of people that do work highly sensitive positions. If the specific handset redirects email, txt, or phone conversations then that would be a problem at the national security level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Considering Chinese companies like Tiktok have been more than happy to sign agreements where data is only transmitted and hosted in the US, with US DoD oversight...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Go on. Complete your thought.