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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But they're not. They are simply saying that lay people assuming feminism is for feminine gender is to be expected as they may go on the face value of it. They aren't saying that the goal of feminism is anti men, rather they agree it is anti abuse due to patriarchal structures but the naming only brings confusion and irrational reactions for the uninformed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. Reread what he said.

He is not a feminist because they should've renamed themselves. That's not a criticism, that's a stance of someone masquerading as an ally it is a well-known position many men take so they don't have to actually support the movement that works on their behalf.

That criticism has been used to bring genuine resistance to the movement and the fact all these dudes in here still say/think this shit shows why this person is a dummy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but is that the case for this specific person? Or are you using the general trend to attack someone in particular who may not exhibit the negative traits you associate with their position? Condemning someone as a fake ally when they are not is not a good move for several reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So by inference, some lives don’t matter. Care to say which you consider disposable?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

If that is your inference you don't understand the reference