this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2024
260 points (90.1% liked)

Political Memes

5232 readers
1871 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Except there is evidence of so-called troll factories in places like St. Petersburg hidden in plain sight in regular buildings where Russians pass off as other nationalities (like Americans and the French) to poison public discourse online. It's one thing to make stuff up and another to expose what happens where there is undeniable evidence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exposes-sick-russian-troll-factory-plaguing-social-media-with-kremlin-propaganda

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I feel its worth noting that this article suggests the actions of this group is/was centered on the war happening in Ukraine . I'm not sure what the other person was saying but it does not follow , nor is it reasonable to conclude from this information alone that these agents operate on other topics .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, of course, it's a huge topic and that's just one article that supports the idea. I'd need to link to several to cover the bases. I didn't have time yesterday to write an essay before I headed out. The point of the link wasn't to back up exactly what I'm saying but to give a rough idea that I'm not just making the whole thing up.

If you want something more in-depth on the Facebook campaigns that dives into the 2016 election, try An Ugly Truth by Frenkel & Kang. Several chapters are dedicated to how these troll farms were discovered and how they used the platform to reach their audience.

Still, I invite you to do a basic search on this topic and if you need me to dig up some articles for you I can see what I can find, it's not that hard to figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my point isn't to say that the ellection interference in 2016 did not happen , but that I don't think its reasonable to assert that a topic is being influenced by Russian trolls by virtue of it being something Russia might have a vague interest in .

not to say that any suspicions are invalid , of course , but again from what I understand , Russia has a very "one topic at a time" approach , which should be taken to mean there is a limited number of affected communities , which from past examples appear "home grown" .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

"vague interest"? I think you're severely downplaying their intentions for whatever reason. Russia has plenty to gain from the destabilization of the West.

Russia has a very “one topic at a time” approach

What do you base this on? And why would this impede them from trying? You make it sound like this lies in the hands of a handful of people or that it's not a sizeable operation. And can you give "homegrown" examples that can be shown not to be influenced by Russian disinformants?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)