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What is Lemmygrad's stance on the Ukraine war? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I've tried to search for opinions on what's going on in Ukraine, but most posts are incredibly old. I'm not too educated on the matter myself (well, aside from keeping up most of the time with what cities are under whose control and all of that). I haven't really heard much about the geopolitical side of things, and it's hard to know what's disinfo or not; That's why I'd like to ask: What is your stance on the Ukraine war?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The war is a proxy war between NATO and Russia that started in 2014 after the Maidan coup. When NATO threatened to allow Ukraine to join, it was a major escalation that demanded a response from Russia. In that sense, their SMO is an act of self-defense. I unequivocally support Russia on this, not because I agree with the Russian government's domestic policy or long term vision for the world, but because NATO is the greater evil, and if they successfully contain Russia, then China is next, and we may never see a free world in our lifetimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

read more lenin ☝️☝️☝️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know exactly what you mean behind your innocent-looking comment. Do you think lenin was stupid? If lenin was here now i'm pretty sure he would recognize the obvious: The contradiction between usa, and the world's continued existence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I must be gullible, because I thought that person's comment meant that we should read Lenin's work regarding imperialism. Like how we should want both imperialist countries to weaken as much as possible so that the workers can find a chance to take power. Only issues is that the true imperialist nations that have an interest in this war, NATO/US, don't have much to lose if Ukraine fails.

Any chance you could write out a deeper analysis on how this situation deviates from Lenin's writings on wars between imperial powers? Or at least point me to a source that talks about it more? The only things that really jump out to me are what I wrote about in the first paragraph.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Difference is, Russia is not imperialist, so it is not an interimperialist war but a national bourgeoisie country resisting the global imperial hegemon (which didn't exist yet in the time Lenin wrote that book), so it would also require reading Stalin's later clarifications and Mao's about contradictions.

Seriously, Lenin would be furious if he knew all those dogmatics interpret his work totally ignoring the conditions.