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What does any of that dialing back of your tough independent American rhetoric have to do with this?
I wasn't giving you a tough independent American rhetoric, I was explaining how American government works and you took it as something else.
Federalism is baked into how the USA governs itself. I can't explain disaster response without noting who the lead government agency is.
Yeah it works through tough independent rhetoric as domestic policy as an excuse to neglect and fuck over people with a thin veneer of that neglect being for their own good.
That's the fancy word for the alienated independence ideology that drives the incompetent and neglectful system, yeah sure.
It you know better, how do you make the federal government the lead agency in responding to natural disasters?
EDIT: Here's a freebie, just for you and your
style debatebro bullshit: China's response is clearly better than what's going on in Maui.
In this one case, but there is also the 90 tonnes of steel AI Weiwei straightened after the 2008 Sichuan Earthquake.
But your own this one case makes Burgerland superior to the See See Pee because that's different!
I never said better.
So you were doing some exhaustive and tiresome devil's advocate nonsense and/or are trying to dial back your ridiculously bad original take where you presented a strong centralized government response as some sort of scary nanny state that only the weak yearn for, and that you have a knee-jerk reaction about.
I never said a strong centralized government was bad, just that it wouldn't be tolerated in the current political framework.
You interpreted that as being bad.
You're waffling and playing sophistic games that are not unlike
and your political ideology seems to come from the same source.
Checks out.
Or maybe you just want someone to argue with.
That's rich coming from you, especially after your
flag-humping session that started with this:
The crumbling and neglected infrastructure and decaying social institutions of Freedomland are cool and good and no worse than the evil See See Pee because something something federalism and how that's totally working out great promise guys for real guys
I was mentioning it in the context of the USA. I've been bringing up Trump as an example of a person in charge of the federal government who didn't respond to requests from states for aid. During COVID, the federal government denied assistance to states that were politically against Trump. Putting all disaster response in the hands of the federal government could cause a similar case to happen in the future.
Claiming that the federal/central government should by default rely, especially in the context of the crumbling and eroding infrastructural and social conditions of the United States, on alienated and isolated first responses from counties or townships or whatever is left in impoverished parts of the country is idealistic nonsense that ignores the actual conditions of those places.
And Maui isn't even nearly one of the most impoverished areas and look how badly that went.