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If you want to use this tired and boring trope then at least set it up properly
One track is full of millions of people and the other is full of the same.
One track is painted with happy colors and rainbows and one track is painted with skulls and imperial eagles
You're getting the exact same death and destruction no matter what, but one track is less openly an asshole about it.
If you saw what Biden and his cronies just did to college students for opposing 7 months of ongoing US-funded genocide in the last month or so and still somehow think he's a lesser evil... I don't think you understand words. Or you just don't care. If you don't value the lives of Palestinians, Yemenis, Iranians, Russians, Ukrainians, whoever, just say it, let everyone know you're a POS, and move on. Stop coping. Accept what you support and stop hiding behind false thought experiments and shit
Stop yelling at those seeking to better things and yell at the people who told you to hate those who seek better things.
I don't really get OP's stance but I don't feel like I'm getting much honest engagement from anyone here that's holding that stance. Just down votes and blow off responses which make me wonder why I'm bothering to have an open mind on this issue instead of just scrolling by.
OP talked about how there is a certain level of evil where supporting becomes morally bankrupt even if the two sides aren't the same. Your formulation lacks that completely. One side has genocide, the other side has genocide and destruction of the environment and persecution of LGBTQIA+ and a lot of other substantive things not found on the first side.
I'm being genuine here but on the verge of rolling my eyes and walking away from learning here. Is there a simplified formulation that is in the widely understood philosophical trolley format that can help me understand the position?
No, actually both sides have destruction of the environment. Biden blew up Nordstream in the worst act of ecological terrorism in history, forcing Europe into dependency on American LNG transported by highly polluting tankers. Biden just imposed massive tariffs on Chinese EVs and continued previous tariffs (imposed by Obama) on Chinese green energy tech. Biden has chosen to ramp up military production and give billions to the military industrial complex knowing full well that the US military is the biggest polluter on the planet. Democrats do jack shit for the environment, they are lackeys of the fossil fuel industry same as Republicans are, they are just better at virtue signaling, gaslighting and selling you false promises.
The mass delusion and wool over the eyes of the true believers of liberal democracy is honestly astounding.
I dont know if its because the media blacks out stuff like this or if people know all of this but still choose to ignore it because of misplaced tribalism/football team politics where the goal isnt to make life better, the goal is to win, at all and any costs.
I'd say it's a combination of both. The media is a powerful force and it does fool many people, but just like with what was happening in Nazi Germany, deep down most people probably know what is really going on, in general terms at least if not the specifics...they simply choose to tell themselves that they don't because that makes it easier for them to go along with it.
There have been many times that lib friends/family have posted something wayyy wrong, I replied with linked sources to the correct info, and they pretended not to see it- they react and reply to everyone but me, because i tried to make them know something but they refuse to know. If they don’t know it, they can’t be wrong.
The 'simplified' formulation is vote for and participate in a third party that doesnt advocate for genocide and preaches intersectional rights.
You might say 'well biden is nice to lgbt+ people!' but this is just ignoring the literal largest prison population, in history, in america, that is using the slave labor of black and white leftists pridominiatly.
There is no good option in this, when presented with two bad options the correct response is not to play.