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Moscow says it will keep pushing its offensive in Ukraine, though NATO doubts Russia has the resources to make a significant breakthrough.

NATO’s top military officer has said Russia’s armed forces are incapable of any major advance.

“The Russians don’t have the numbers necessary to do a strategic breakthrough,” NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe Christopher Cavoli told reporters on Thursday.

“More to the point, they don’t have the skill and the capability to do it; to operate at the scale necessary to exploit any breakthrough to strategic advantage,” the general said.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Intelligence about state capabilities come, first and foremost, from the state itself.

What are you confused about here? That foreign intelligence services believed Russian assessments of its own capabilities?

Yes, the Russian grossly overestimated their capabilities. Yes, many foreign analysts agreed that the Russian military was powerful.

This is ended up being less the case. But that doesn’t mean the Russian military isn’t dangerous or is completely incompetent and incapable of change.

What’s your point?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Probably better not to waste your time "debating" them, their goal is only to spread misinformation, and they won't argue in good faith.

Better to just tag them as "shill," downvote, and move on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like to provide links that prove when people are spouting bullshit so anyone who is less informed that stumbles upon the argument can see how blatantly wrong they are. I notice this guy got awful quiet once I proved Russian state media says insane threatening shit on the regular.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I'm sure that's helpful. It's interesting to think that while the Kremlin's disinformation campaigns do trick a lot of people, they also end up educating a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I respectfully disagree.

I take part in conversations not for their benefit, necessarily, but observers’ benefit. And one of the most effective ways of fighting propaganda is to shine a light on it.

If you just delete every dissenting worldview without engaging, then it runs the risk of making the other positions more legitimate to others watching but not engaging, or gives fodder to the ideas that “we” in the more open parts of the world are just as bad as authoritarians at silencing dissent, which isn’t usually true.

I’d agree if the other poster was only spamming ad hom attacks all over, but there’s enough logic laced in there that I find it’s worth discussing and trying to understand, if only to better understand where Russian disinformation is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Fair enough, well said.