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Youtube Rant from a paying customer (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I used to use NewPipe back in the days of yore. Then I got Youtube Premium since it bundled in Youtube Music as well which I used. But the former's app on mobile is a shit show. Even after paying, you are asked to tip random creators, purchase merchandise[ which are shown as actual ads below videos] and join channels to access exclusive videos for more money. Basically pay money once, and then pay more money for more content.

Okay, one could argue atleast the above goes to a channel's creators and helps them. How would one say then that the Youtube app still doesn't have a systemwide option to choose video quality for all videos. New Pipe had that option long ago, but Youtube thinks it's user base are immature who need to be coddled with only two options like "High" and "Data Saver".

Despite having a Premium thing, I finally crossed over to a Newpipe fork Tubular [available on F Droid] today simply because the paying experience on Youtube Mobile is so bad. I can't fathom how bad it would be for free customers using the official app.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The algorithm issue is why I allways curate my youtube watch history, if I don't, my recommendations would quickly be messed up after watching videos outside of my normal interests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ever thought about firing the algorithm and only watching updates from your subs?

50 people uploading weekly at ~10 minutes per video is 8 hours' watch time per week. Compare with your actual time spent watching YT...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think recommendations being messed up by the algorithm is the real issue with YouTube (or any big tech social media platform). It's the fact that the algorithm is so good at predicting what you want to watch before you even think about watching it, that you slowly become pushed into an echo-chamber where your entire online space is inhabited only by people who agree with you, issues that you think are relevant, etc. It's the entire concept of algorithm-based recommendations that is messed up and it's damaging society.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh most deffinately, I tend to match non political stuff, but I have no idea if/how I am being affected.

The main issue with the algorithm is that it values engagement over everythibg else, so it will allway bring more extreme view points as they have more engagibg videos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, exactly. Negative emotions have been shown to drive more engagement in users, so the algorithms are designed to highlight conflict and increasingly extreme viewpoints. For younger viewers, the algorithm favours addictive content to ensure they stay glued to the screen.