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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (52 children)

I want a $10000 car that would normally be inflated to $30000 in the US.

I’m no lover of China, but fuck the capitalist auto companies.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (23 children)

I want a $10000 car that would normally be inflated to $30000 in the US.

You can't make that same car in the United States for anything like the same price. Even ignoring the Chinese Governments heavy subsidies there's still a massive cost gap due to worker compensation, cost of compliance with safety regulations, cost of compliance with environmental regulations, and a whole host of other things.

The cost of manufacturing in the United States is radically higher than it is in China and that simply isn't fixable unless you're going to unwind Union pay deals, remove environmental laws, and reduce safety restrictions.

You cannot have both, so which are you choosing? Are you going to go with your wallet like a self absorbed capitalist or are you going to support union workers, stronger environmental laws, and more worker safety?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is what I try to tell people who just want the cheapest things possible. We're voting with our dollars what kind of world we want.

Also, shipping things across the sea burns some of the worst fuel for the environment so I'd rather buy things made here and support the local economy whenever possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is what I try to tell people who just want the cheapest things possible. We're voting with our dollars what kind of world we want.

Ok, please tell me where can I buy that's wasn't totally or partially made in China??

I'm an avid learner and DIY, I try to only buy raw materials and tools to make everything I can myself ... I have yet to see standard basic tools that were not made in China...

I understand your point, but to expect that "voting with your wallet" will cause change, is like hoping we can turn around a cruise ship by blowing at it

Just look at the enshitification of everything... Did people vote that in with their wallets? Or all services decided that on greed and left us no choice but to hold our noses or give up the last few vestiges of entertainment that we could still afford?

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