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Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (32 children)

Not voting for Biden is not a vote for Trump. For many young voters it’s a choice between Biden or 3rd party, because voting for Trump is out of the question. This is a matter of whether Biden cares about being vote-worthy himself, or if he will continue to prioritize his “Israel First” pro-genocidal strategy above winning the presidency. The fault of Biden’s inevitable upcoming loss is entirely his own, stop trying to blame voters for Biden’s garbage policies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (31 children)

Like it or not (I for one do not), we live in a country where only two parties matter for the presidential election (third parties DO matter for state and even congress. just not executive).

If you are (American) left leaning and you vote Green party over Democrat? You are one less vote for the Democrats which is one more vote for the republicans when the math breaks down.

Younger folk (and older folk) don't understand that because we do a horrifically bad job of teaching social studies in high school and tv shows love to emphasize "douche and a turd sandwich" logic to encourage abstaining.

Honestly? Fuck Biden. I have had serious issues with him ever since he was a wannabe cop pushing some really horrible drug legislation. But he is a Democrat and isn't trump. It is as simple as that. Maybe he won't help on a lot of issues I care about. He will help on a lot of other issues I do.

Which gets back down to it: if Palestine is the only issue you care about and the only issue anyone you care about cares about? Congrats, you won the privilege lottery and can skip the election. Otherwise? We have two candidates who basically have the same stance on Palestine and Israel (give money to the military industrial complex above all else). But they differ drastically on a LOT of other issues and a LOT of people will be harmed.

So if trans rights or women's rights or even continuing to be a democracy-ish haven't "earned your vote"? What does that say about you?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (8 children)

It’s not a 2 party system, it’s a corporate uni-party and they’re all being paid by AIPAC to let the genocide continue. It’s disgusting, and for this reason alone I won’t support either of those parties. If either party cares about politics at all, more than their donor money, then a sizable vote for green/PSL should register with them and force them to adjust their campaigning in ‘28, or else they’ll lose power rapidly as 3rd parties gain momentum. From this perspective, which you clearly don’t understand, voting for either R or D is throwing a vote away. Voting for a better alternative is not giving a vote to Trump, that is the simpleton turd sandwich framing which you’ve just desparaged. This blames voters, and it’s wrong - Biden is losing these votes all by himself.

I’d like to briefly address your last comment as well. Democrats have had numerous opportunities in the last 20 years to codify Roe into law, and they chose not to do so. Instead, they wanted to fear monger over republicans taking away women’s bodily autonomy and fundraise off of it. All the while, manufacturing consent for the republicans to do just that. It’s very leopards ate my face to act surprised about this, and disingenuous at best to claim democrats are some kind of women’s rights champions. If you’re at all interested in a leader who will actually safeguard women, cis or trans, vote for Jill Stein this November.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Voting for a better alternative is not giving a vote to Trump

Incorrect.

First Past the Post says fuck you, and First Past the Post is the reality. Until we change the voting system, third parties will never gain momentum. It is statistically impossible. You may as well get hit by a meteor while turning in your winning Powerball ticket.

Oh, and nevermind that if Trump wins, none of this will matter. All future "elections" will be won by a Republican with 110% of the vote

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Not seeing a difference right now tbh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

We are wel past the point of no return.

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