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What purpose does American cheese serve? What problem does it solve?

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[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Some vegan cheese is actually cheese. Same microorganisms, same process. If it's not cheese then any number of other things you'd like to call cheese aren't either.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I vote you can say that about vegan yogurt, but not vegan cheese. Yogurt is much more defined by the culture vs the medium compared with cheese.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, no, it isn't. By definition, cheese is a dairy product. It doesn't have to come from cows, but it does require milk from an animal. Ergo, cheese cannot be vegan, which means that vegan cheese is an oxymoron.

Edit:

Found a site that links to a pdf covering what is and isn't a cheese, legally. www.cheesesociety.org/events-education/cheese-definitions, and covers some of the terminology around cheese and cheese making.

If anyone can't find an online dictionary like Webster's, the oed, or other generally accepted authoritative source to see the range of standard definitions outside of regulatory of industry terminology, well, you probably shouldn't be online at all. But, even the ones that include fake cheeses will state that it's a non standard usage.

Plus, you can call smegma dick cheese all you want, but it's still not actually cheese.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

It's not made from milk though, right? It wouldn't be vegan if it has any animal products. And if it isn't made from milk, it's just not cheese, even if the microorganisms are the same.