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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Lemme quickly get banned from this community.

You absolutely can democratically control it. All democracies on the planet have taxes. You can democratically elect a party that will impose a 99% corporate profit tax rate. Then you can democratically deside what to spend this money on. Maybe education, maybe defense, maybe tesla subsidies, your democratically elected government can decide. In fact, some countries in northern Europe sorta move in this direction.

If this has not happened in your country, it's because your voters don't want this. It's called democracy.


Oh, and because I absolutely certain you're from the US and will reply to this comment with your usual whining. No. You had Bernie Sanders, and ended up with Trump. And don't talk to me about 48% vs 52%. It should've been 2% for Trump, 98% for Bernie. And you would've seen your dreams come true. Democratically.

So, stop whining. Accept the truth: about half of the population of your country wishes the opposite of what you do. So your reality doesn't happen because they don't want it. This is called democracy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Wow, you don't understand:

  1. Socialism

  2. Democracy

  3. The process of advocating for better

  4. Electoral processes

Amazing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Taxes are not socialism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Fucking liberals… they’re getting desperate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You can democratically elect a party that will impose a 99% corporate profit tax rate

Liberals say stuff like this, and think the idea of revolution is far fetched. Wake me up when you accomplish this. Meanwhile, there are various countries thay have managed to remove the shackles of capitalism. Eat shit, dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lemme quickly get banned from this community.

Love to see people like these coming here with this type of quotes as if they are going to be crucified and become martyrs under the shining light of true and righteousness for speaking THE TRUTH.

No, dude. You are just going to be laughed at.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Valbrandur @where_am_i
Let's see... 0 followers, 0 following, 1 post.

Adds up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do note that we are on lemmy, and lemmy doesn't use followers/following (that's why it's 0), and that where_am_i actually has some 292 comments, the reason you can't see any more has to do with federation stuff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I realised you can actually see (many of) the comments, it's just that the entire post/comments stuff is very differently displayed in mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I once saw a survey done in Seattle asking people whether they would prefer to eat feces raw or deep-fried. Based on the result of that survey, I have concluded that people in Seattle like deep-fried feces and are actively choosing to eat it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You can democratically elect a party that will impose a 99% corporate profit tax rate.

Please, enlighten us and show where that was done. If it was never done, then no, you can't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You absolutely can democratically control it. All democracies on the planet have taxes. You can democratically elect a party that will impose a 99% corporate profit tax rate.

While in theory you can, in practice you absolutely cannot do that in bourgeois democracies. The capitalist class would bring an end to the democratic kayfabe if necessary to stop you.

In fact, some countries in northern Europe sorta move in this direction.

Since the rise of neoliberalism, the welfare systems have been eroding in those countries. They’re moving in the opposite direction.

Oh, and because I absolutely certain you’re from the US

OP is not from the US nor does he live there now, but keep being confidently incorrect.

So, stop whining. Accept the truth: about half of the population of your country wishes the opposite of what you do. So your reality doesn’t happen because they don’t want it. This is called democracy.

First of all it’s not true that half the population wishes the opposite, and second of all research shows that it doesn’t matter what we want. [Princeton] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

The US is dominated by a rich and powerful elite.

So concludes a recent study by Princeton University Prof Martin Gilens and Northwestern University Prof Benjamin I Page.

This is not news, you say.

Perhaps, but the two professors have conducted exhaustive research to try to present data-driven support for this conclusion. Here's how they explain it:

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

In English: the wealthy few move policy, while the average American has little power.